We don't really want political debate on the forum, but I believe the USA's problems began decades ago, long before Trump.

Also depending on who you talk to over there, some say Trump could be part of the solution not part of any problem. A very polarising bloke, with some good ideas & some bad, all we can do is watch.

Dr Terry

I deal with numerous yanks every day, as part of my work. It seems to be a bit of a regional love/hate for Trump.
The guys I know down in Kentucky, Texas, and other southern areas seem to like him (well, as put by one, he was a better choice than Hillary for them).
But the guys up in Connecticut, Boston, and across in Chicago have no time for him. The only ones I find who are mixed are the guys I talk to in Utah & California.

He has made some popular decisions - some that our government would never dare to try, for fear of rocking the boat.
Terry quoted the best word to sum him up - polarising.

We hear democrat/liberal/republican terms thrown around in our media, but the problem is many Aussies probably don't understand that liberal over there is not the same as the Australian Liberal Party - liberal in the US literally means liberal spending, and creation of a socialist population, as opposed to the capitalist view of the Libs in AU.

Too true Terry. But if you came from afar and just watched, listen to or read our media you’d think this was a country of far left or far right with no-one in between. Whereas the reality is very different.

Dr Terry, I believe you are completely correct when you say USA’s problems have been gestating over decades.
However I don’t consider Trump has been genuine about any effort to unify the population in a bipartisan manner.
Thanks for the discussion.

Trump is the best president ever the USA has ever had and is turning the Nation around as it was only being run into the ground by the last two total morons Presidents that's for sure, not even an enemy could bring on such destruction as they have created for the USA.
They just had a President before Trump who no one knows who the fuc- he truly is for f sake ! talk about insane and the Media went way out of it's way to hush such all up and the Media is insane making lies about Trump that would make even the Nazi propaganda minister Gobbles blush.

The Media is 90% owned by the Talmud Zionist Jews the same bastards who the Nazis were in bed with in fact and I know it for a fact that this mob went about killing the German Jews who were the only ones who truly understood such bastard game plays in depth and so them true Jews were a real threat to the Talmud Whore as such and that's why they got rid of them.
Jesus pointed such out as not true Jews but that they were of their Father, of lies who was a murderer from the beginning. these bastards enslaved people all through history in fact, yep owed all the ships that brought the nigger slaves to the USA and they created Communism and all the Nazi BS, yep they orchestrated the whole thing.

look at North Korea it has been propped up with USA tax payers money for many years or it would of failed many years ago and look at the so called State they call Israel, yep USA tax payer propped it all up all through the years or it would of failed.
look at China that was all propped up with USA investment mainly, only to take advantage of cheap labour and sh1t working conditions because they can exploit such people. but all at the cost to the USA working middle class that is being wiped away and all that they have now is the very rich and the middle class is gone to shit, they are enslaved in debt that they can never get out of and the very rich pay f all tax. not to mention all the chumly's bumming their way through life are the ones who hate Trump, it's Oh no ! I will be made to work for a living and be accountable for my self. what a disaster ! Trump is a threat to all imbeciles across the nation.
If the USA does not drag it's way out of the Debt they are fooked, it's sink or swim, or China will walk all over them and this is what all the imbeciles don't understand or they feel that Communism is going to fee them. but the fact is such only enslaves all under a total moronic insane person who is happy to kill any one regardless, be it climate change, ok we have to kill 100 million ok. fine, done deal.

Thanks Liquefaction, I must say I am not putting forward a synopsis and I don't have a conviction I am trying to support. My comment and rhetorical question was just that. I have an interest in US politics and would be pleased to discuss US politics at length (this is definitely not the forum)
Thanks.

Look at how the Media have aided and abetted all the morons in the USA to become lawless idiots, even could be said that they have sent many of all them fools to catch Covid.

The Media make such a big deal about not going out to catch or spread the covid, but it's ok to protest in huge groups like total morons, I wonder if this spiked the rate of people contacting covid

The media look to be totally set in trying to undermine the USA economy and not only that but to cause only trouble.

If Floyd did the right thing for a start he would not of had a problem and if he did not resist arrest their would not of been a problem, the bloke was a total moron.

Sadly we get the media playing such a fool claiming this jerk an angel ? common he was a drugged up moron, why don't the media print the truth about this clown, he died because he was on crap drugs and many people die due to this crap, a mate of mines sister died of the same crap 46yo last year and many such idiots on this crap in their 40's and up are on death row as it weakens the heart and when such idiots run or struggle, then on comes the symptoms and they die.

We have in QLD paddy wagons set so the cops have to make sure that such morons are sitting up, because the morons can not breath, a cop showed me this some years ago.

Floyd was a thug bouncer and been in Jail 5 times and robbed a house holding a gun to a woman with child gut. what a f ing moron ! why don't the media tell the truth and support the poor people who get f ed over by thugs, what about the poor business owners who got done over by the media inspired looting, them people can not get insurance, as such rioting is not covered by any insurance company's.

I have not seen the media Show us the people who have been shafted by such, don't their livelihoods matter ?

There is a war being waged on us, by the Politically correct Cultural Marxist lowlife nutcases and Communist China is getting way out of hand as to playing the thug.

By going out and Tell the truth !

I would say that if Trump fails we are fooked !

Yesterday I drove past a greenie mob holding up stupid foolish signs and I gave them the all the finger as I want past each one of them, then I seen one that I got a response from, a big smile came on his face at me, I was still having a real good laugh about that for 2km down the road.

All that we need do is call them out on all their BS regardless, fook the media Nazis and stand up to them all, freedom of speech is our weapon and anyone who try's to undermine freedom of speech in any way, take to them directly too go get fooked.

I for one are sick to death of dictating little twats.

this forum isn't any link to govt or politics
We should respect all the religions, countries, people

It's a huge debate.
Every single country has issues with its elected president or prime minister.
that's why I don't vote.