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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 29 March 2006 9:05:01 AM(UTC)
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ive owned my 5.0 injected ute since 1997..its got just under 400,000k onit..late 2005 it got damaged and sat in a panelshop for 5 weeks while being repaired,got it back and within 5 k oil light came on and within 10k lifters started to rattle...obviously no oil pressure so home it goes and i remove the xmember and drop the sump and pick up and clean these out and then put new genuine holden oil pump and new oil pressure switch..this fixed my problem and off we go again...for the past 5 weeks its just been sitting and when i go to use it...lo and behold the friggin oil lght comes on..bugger,so i just kept doin laps around the block to see if the lifters would start to rattle and guess what...they did...so obvious no oil pressure...question here is...anyone here ever heard of this happening before?...i am going to pull the pressure relief valve out and make sure its not stuck and change the oil because its due...ive had cars that ive bought that have sat for 5 years and they fire up with good oil pressure so its got me stuffed...
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 29 March 2006 9:20:38 AM(UTC)
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While you leave the ute sitting, the oil is obviously draining away from the rotors (gears) in the oil pump. Three things you can do before you fire her up after such long periods:

1 - Whip the oil filter off and fill it with oil b4 you even think abo
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#3 Posted : Thursday, 30 March 2006 7:09:07 AM(UTC)
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ok..ive been running pennzoil older engine oil for 5 years..so oil isnt an issue..as for pullin the thing apart after 5 weeks...no i dont think so..ive got a transam that gets started as little as once a year at times and its never had an issue..i played
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#4 Posted : Thursday, 30 March 2006 10:51:20 AM(UTC)
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Okay, so let's presume that the pressure relief valve is either stuck open, or that the spring holding the valve piston in place has lost compression. Worth a look for sure. If you want to do some testing, you could cut a piece of mild steel rod to the
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#5 Posted : Thursday, 30 March 2006 10:51:22 PM(UTC)
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Holden V8's are notoriously bad to get initial oil pressure into. When I worked at a local service station we used to have to fill the new oil filter with oil sometimes before fitting it to the car.

It sounds like you may have a leak between the oil

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#6 Posted : Friday, 31 March 2006 2:45:40 AM(UTC)
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Jim raises an excellent point, which triggers my memory as well.

Two things regarding pickups that I have encountered over the years are that the plate on the end of the pickup that bolts to the block is not always flat. I always linished the face by
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#7 Posted : Friday, 31 March 2006 5:25:00 AM(UTC)
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thanks dave,havent heard of the rod thing before..makes sense...i will do that and the oil pressure gauge thing this weekend and hope it is only that because im not lookin forward to dropping the crossmember etc etc etc etc again to see if it has develope
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#8 Posted : Saturday, 1 April 2006 10:27:00 PM(UTC)
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i have had the same problem over time resulting in having to rabuild the engine..... often with those engines because of the temp the get to with stop start trafic the oil becomes like "dirt" when you have your sump off next check out how dirty and if the
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#9 Posted : Sunday, 2 April 2006 6:26:36 AM(UTC)
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HI all, Now I had a problem with my 308 long long time ago when I was a boy, If memory is right the pump drive gear had sheared the roll pin and was efectively spinning on the shaft underload but ok on the idle.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 4 April 2006 5:26:09 AM(UTC)
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WELL IT LOOKS LIKE ITS BEEN FIGURED OUT...when i went away at xmas i had to top up my oil..used a good quality multigrade about 3 litres over the trip..BUT..these all are detergent based..ive always run pennzoil straight 50 which doesnt have detergents..t
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#11 Posted : Thursday, 6 April 2006 1:03:58 AM(UTC)
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Excessive bearing clearances will do that.

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#12 Posted : Thursday, 6 April 2006 7:04:52 AM(UTC)
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yep...they sure will..
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#13 Posted : Saturday, 29 April 2006 8:35:31 AM(UTC)
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never in a rush to fix stuff i finally got around to finding the problem with the oil pressure...it wasnt bearings...it wasnt a blocked pick up or cracked or loose...it was a broken oil pump drive gear...not totally broken but enough to be still driving b
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#14 Posted : Sunday, 30 April 2006 4:54:30 PM(UTC)
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when that lil man is knocking on ya crack its to late your motor is now or not far from now fkd knocking noise is movement and movement is damage when it comes to the holden v8 crack... 400 000 k isn't much there have been 88vn ss still running 16 s
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#15 Posted : Monday, 1 May 2006 5:35:49 AM(UTC)
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murray...i will let you know the outcome of this soon...knocking noises dont worry me and if it blows up...well..thats how it will be...
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, 10 May 2006 8:25:50 AM(UTC)
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END OF STORY...oil pressure is back,but while we were there we did crank bearings and put early model commodore pick up in...crank bearings were still good and had normal wear for the ks...one thing other than the stripped gear but...the 1 year old oil pu
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