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Guest		#1 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 5:12:34 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Hi, can someone give an answer on whether all the HD range had ball joint front, or was it introduced sometime during the model. Thanks

Guest		#2 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 5:19:20 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		p.s. I thought that the last of the HD series could have been ordered with ball joint/disc brake fronts.

stopgo		#3 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 5:46:04 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 7/05/2006(UTC) Posts: 63		Never seen a facory HD with balljoints Only HR However as you say...... some late ones might have got the new gear
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Guest		#4 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 5:53:10 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Thanks mate. They definately had them, just require confirmation on when they were introduced.

Guest		#5 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 5:54:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		I believe it was late in the run that they got the upgrade, but yes definately some HDs had the options.

Guest		#6 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 5:58:41 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Thanks Reaper. Just surfing the net trying to confirm this question and saw your shed posting on..... http://gallery.oldholden.com/sheds.php

Guest		#7 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 6:03:27 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Plenty of images to go through there Vern, over 3000 ;) I think at one time I might have read Dr Terry say the upgrades were introduced closer to the middle of the HD run than the end (whereas I always thought it was late) and Dr Terry would be the man

vintageholden		#8 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 6:10:01 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 2/06/2006(UTC) Posts: 1,664		quote: Originally posted by ReaperHR Plenty of images to go through there Vern, over 3000 ;) I think at one time I might ha
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Guest		#9 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 6:13:02 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Yep, Dr Terry and Warren. They are wealths of knowledge. (just giving credit where credit is due) No doubt this, like many subjects has already been raised on this site, though can be very difficult to find old posts.

Guest		#10 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 6:16:33 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		quote: Originally posted by vintageholden hd premier had ball joints

Dr Terry		#11 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 9:53:41 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,114 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Hi Guys. There were actually more HDs made with ball joints than king-pins. All HDs produced from Jan to May '65 had king-pins, then all HDs from 1st June '65 to early '67 had ball joint front ends. When the ball joints were released, the disc brake op
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Dr Terry		#12 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 10:54:15 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,114 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Hi Guys. A correction to that last post. It should read "then all HDs from 1st June '65 to early '66 (not '67)had ball-joint front ends". Dr Terry.
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Guest		#13 Posted : Monday, 9 April 2007 11:32:47 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Thanks Dr Terry for clearing that up, I'll have to try and remember what you've said this time.

peter_flane		#14 Posted : Wednesday, 11 April 2007 12:18:50 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,384		So Terry would it be a correct assumption that all HD utes and vans had ball joint front end, as they were released later?
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Dr Terry		#15 Posted : Wednesday, 11 April 2007 3:18:49 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,114 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Hi Peter. AFAIK that is correct, also I've never seen an HD ute or van with king-pins. Dr Terry.
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Guest		#16 Posted : Sunday, 15 April 2007 5:36:39 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		can i use LJ torana stub axles to start a disc conv on a HR. its running drums right now

peter_flane		#17 Posted : Sunday, 15 April 2007 6:18:55 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,384		They will bolt on. Simply I would say no, don't do it. The kingpin inclination angle will be too far out to get a decent wheel alignment. In the hundreds of disc front conversions on old Holdens I have seen, only a couple have had Torana stub axles, and t
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Guest		#18 Posted : Tuesday, 17 April 2007 8:22:31 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Thanks guys, particularly Dr Terry for the production dates. This has confirmed my assumption.

hq ss		#19 Posted : Tuesday, 17 April 2007 10:01:40 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 26/08/2006(UTC) Posts: 671 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 1 time(s) in 1 post(s)		Kev I agree with peter_smol. I have checked HQ HT LJ and LH and only HR is Right for HR. Even with longer bolts and the upper control arms pressed on to the frame it was just not right.Spend the bucks and get the HR stubs its a lot easier in the long run.
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