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#1 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 8:12:28 AM(UTC)
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I recently purchased a motor advertised as a roller cam block.
Couldn't find anyone that knew how to look up engine numbers I tried Holden Australia, 2 Dealers and the DPI.

The engine number is 16234531

How can I confirm it's a roller cam VS/VT? (with out pulling the top end appart)

Motor doesn't have fanbelts or extractor but is other wise complete.

The computer is 16234531 and is chipped and says VS III V8 CJYN A HP2 (Chip Torque) - I am paranoid how ever I would rather confirm by looking at the motor.

I've searched for two days and from what I can tell the VM prefix was associated with VSIII but did it cover any other motors? If this is a roller cam block from a VSIII is it a 179kw or a 195kw?

I read correctly the VT HSV had 195K and the standard VT had 179kw whilst the poster claimed the older VS Series III VMxxxxxx had 195kw??? (maybe wishfull thinking but i read it somewhere and was told it also by the guy who i baught it from)

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 8:13:26 AM(UTC)
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ENGINE NUMBER IS VM16234531
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 8:15:05 AM(UTC)
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Damn sorry Im tired. ENGINE NUMBER IS VM670092 I was getting mixed up with the computer.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 8:15:05 AM(UTC)
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Damn sorry I'm tired. ENGINE NUMBER IS VM670092 I was getting mixed up with the computer.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 8:39:21 AM(UTC)
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jesus that is a shocking effort it should read,

"The COMPUTER NUMBER is 16234531 CJYN, the ENGINE NUMBER IS VM670092"
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 9:01:08 AM(UTC)
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179 KW motor VS III and VT 179 KW IS VMxxxxxx
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 9:05:41 AM(UTC)
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some of the real late VTs coped some good stuff from factory but not too many , from my understanding roller rockers and a couple of other odds n ends . As for a VS 111 standard motor ever putting out 195kw that would have to be a HSV deffinatly not stand
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 4:18:50 PM(UTC)
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All Holden 5.0L engines post VT (including VSIII) are roller cam, sequential injection engines. Prefix is VM. This includes the HBD 195i engines, which are identical internally to the 179kW. 195kW had knock sensor, different exhaust, cold air intake and d
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 9:07:27 PM(UTC)
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The VT 195 KW has a biger cam. and exhaust valve is same size but has a thiner stem at near the head. all 179 KW sequental have knock sensor. if i could tune it and get rid of the knock sensor i would they are rubbish! just dont run 91 octane.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 9:11:44 PM(UTC)
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195 KW was a option on all, not just hsv.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 10:09:26 PM(UTC)
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quote:
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The VT 195 KW has a biger cam. and exhaust valve is same size but has a thiner stem at n
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 10:47:18 PM(UTC)
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195 kw option only HSV not avail from factory standard holdens .. if avilable on all then where did hsv stand in the marketing side would seem pritty pointless ... Sold HSV for quite a while so pritty certain on that , but will ring a mate thats been sel
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, 18 December 2007 11:39:31 PM(UTC)
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Hi Guys.

The 195 kW WAS available as an option across the VT I model range. It was sold as an HBD (Holden by Design) option.

To my knowledge it also had the engine prefix VN, where the std 179 kW V8 was VM.

There were a few internal differences b
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 19 December 2007 12:29:32 AM(UTC)
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correct hbd did a 195 other than that it was hsv
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, 19 December 2007 4:26:57 AM(UTC)
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As far as I was aware only the HSV 195kW engine with the valve and cam mods was a VN prefix. I thought the HDB 195kW was still VM/SVM and had no internal mods. Someone please clarify this??

Also, the VSIII ute brochure I have is dated July '99 and it l
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, 19 December 2007 4:26:57 AM(UTC)
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As far as I was aware only the HSV 195kW engine with the valve and cam mods was a VN prefix. I thought the HDB 195kW was still VM/SVM and had no internal mods. Someone please clarify this??

Also, the VSIII ute brochure I have is dated July 99 and it li
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#17 Posted : Wednesday, 19 December 2007 4:31:16 AM(UTC)
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A bit of trivia for you:

The regular 179kw motor had silver engine covers (curved VT style)

The HBD 195i had red engine covers and the holden logo remained.
The HSV 195i had red engine covers, but the holden logo was machined out, and the HSV emb
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, 19 December 2007 4:34:58 AM(UTC)
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and the 200kW 4 bolt VP GTS motor had black engine covers right?


If nissan motorsport is nismo, then doesnt that make honda motorsport Homo?
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, 19 December 2007 4:34:58 AM(UTC)
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and the 200kW 4 bolt VP GTS motor had black engine covers right?


If nissan motorsport is nismo, then doesn't that make honda motorsport Homo?
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, 19 December 2007 10:50:11 PM(UTC)
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Correct 220i Grey covers I have a senator sitting in the yard Eng prefix is VP661***** and have a Manta 195i VN66***** and for VS Clubby 185i VU65**** and then standard VS 5.0 is also VU****** . as for the red rocker covers on any thing other than a HSV I
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