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#1 Posted : Sunday, 23 December 2007 10:28:43 AM(UTC)
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with all of this tag swapping going on,...

you would have to have your head in the sand if you deny it, it is becoming common.
i get offered tags all the time
examples of going rates:
SLR $1000
GTR $1000
xu-1 $3000

Good luck to them i say,
why?

if they want to build a replica, pay $$$$$$ for for 100 little items off ebay to make it right (an it still won't be right)
and then get busted when a shrewed matching numbers guy looks at it, and the whole holden community will know its a fake.
what for?????

They would be better off buying the real deal in the first place.

they are fooling themselves in most cases,

saying its illegal on a forum isn't going to stop it.

so let them go, sell them all the crappy little bits they need to do it for a small fortune like 16:1 steering boxes for HKTG etc...
don't tell them anything they have missed.
for when that car is judged, and busted, it will forever be a fake.
Justice will be served,

if your reading this and thinking,
"i will be right, i know how to build a faker"
Goodluck.

A1 Bogan.
Old holdens brought on the spot, quick decision, cash paid.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, 23 December 2007 6:51:26 PM(UTC)
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I made some enquiries with a company that was selling all three plates for $1500, no matter what you wanted on them. You can get them out of the US for about $500. They are pretty good the ones form the US and there are at least two "companies' making th
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I made some enquiries with a company that was selling all three plates for $1500, no matter what you wanted on them. You can get them out of the US for about $500. They are pretty good the ones form the US and there are at least two "companies making the
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#4 Posted : Monday, 24 December 2007 8:10:38 PM(UTC)
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Warren when you say 'having it checked' before hand, do you mean having it checked by a holden fan, or having it checked by the police/RTA..? Ive tried to have numbers checked by the RTA (vic) but without a previous rego they cant tell you a thing about t
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Warren when you say having it checked before hand, do you mean having it checked by a holden fan, or having it checked by the police/RTA..? Ive tried to have numbers checked by the RTA (vic) but without a previous rego they cant tell you a thing about the
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#6 Posted : Monday, 24 December 2007 8:16:16 PM(UTC)
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The numbers on the tags are not known to the RTA or Police. All they have is engine and chassis number on pre VN Holdens.

You need to have it checked by a Holden expert and yes if they have all the bits then unable to tell but about 90% of the fakes do
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#7 Posted : Monday, 24 December 2007 8:34:18 PM(UTC)
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If you have a matching numbers car and want to fool the unknowledgeable you could make up a new set of tags with incorrect info to protect the real identity of your car, as rego authorities only use engine and chassis nos the VIN and body nos can be varie

You only have to be in front at the end of the race.
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#8 Posted : Monday, 24 December 2007 11:42:09 PM(UTC)
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What if you have a real car and over the many years it has been on the road, a few of the original parts have been replaced due to wear. The steering box, instrument cluster, special clips, bits, bobs etc.
If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
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#9 Posted : Monday, 24 December 2007 11:42:09 PM(UTC)
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What if you have a 'real' car and over the many years it has been on the road, a few of the original parts have been replaced due to wear. The steering box, instrument cluster, special clips, bits, bobs etc.
If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 25 December 2007 3:03:19 AM(UTC)
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Not only that what if you have an original car and strip it down to a shell to restore it and in the process replaced most of the parts with others in good nick you have gathered over the years. All numbers will match.. chassis tags and motor. Is this ca
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 25 December 2007 8:12:38 PM(UTC)
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Peter / sammy, i think that these cars will be devalued accordingly.
depending on how much has been changed, they will keep their "real" status.

but, you have to draw a line in the sand somewhere.



A1 Bogan.
Old holdens brought on the spot, quick decision, cash paid.
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, 26 December 2007 8:12:38 PM(UTC)
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Times like this I am glad I have a real common VW Beetle. A rare one of 21,529,464 made
If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, 26 December 2007 8:12:38 PM(UTC)
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Times like this I am glad I have a 'real' common VW Beetle. A rare one of 21,529,464 made
If it is old or rare - Cut it! http://www.ehlimo.com.au/
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 26 December 2007 10:06:55 PM(UTC)
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In restoring a car you can use bits from other cars, eg a GTS 327 only has a handfull of parts that are not common to other Holdens, they are:

Fuel tank
engine
sway bar
shocks

So if these are not there it is not a fake it is just not quite finish
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, 26 December 2007 10:37:50 PM(UTC)
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Interesting debate guys...

I have many, many tags in my collection, an 81837 monaro coupe set, an 80737 coupe monaro set, 3 sets of HQ SS tags, two chargers, numerous toranas and lots lots more, old chevys, pontiacs. Most have the rego plates that wer
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#16 Posted : Thursday, 27 December 2007 5:53:14 AM(UTC)
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well put "tag collector". I do the same =)
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#17 Posted : Thursday, 27 December 2007 7:36:27 AM(UTC)
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I don't bother with compliance plates, as they are technically illegal to posess, however I do collect the 'body plate' from commodores (the one with model, paint, trim, eng, trans etc on it) as they are not really an illegal item. Even pushing the point
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#18 Posted : Thursday, 27 December 2007 7:36:27 AM(UTC)
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I dont bother with compliance plates, as they are technically illegal to posess, however I do collect the body plate from commodores (the one with model, paint, trim, eng, trans etc on it) as they are not really an illegal item. Even pushing the point yo
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#19 Posted : Thursday, 27 December 2007 8:38:44 AM(UTC)
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tag collector. I am interested to talk to you about the SS plates. I am not interested in buying them or using them. I am just interested in the data on them. If you look here http://gallery.oldholden.com/HQ_SS/ss_001/ you will see that I am interested i
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#20 Posted : Thursday, 27 December 2007 8:58:41 AM(UTC)
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commodore nut, i totally agree, . we must be careful what information is spread around.

Always keep and ace up your sleeve.

A1 Bogan.
Old holdens brought on the spot, quick decision, cash paid.
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