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Guest		#1 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 12:04:36 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		My 186 motor in my HG ute has blown up. bummer. I'm looking at putting a replacement motor in it. I've found a few 202's that look alright. Are there any drama's doing this? Will my 186 manifold and headers fit straight onto the 202 block? I have heard that I will have to change the sump and make a few other adjustments, what are they? Any help will be appreciated.

HK1837		#2 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 2:15:36 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,898 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)		Motors are identical externally (well all but). If the 202 doesnt have a HK-HG sump youll have to fit a HK-HG sump and pickup. But thats about it. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would b
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HK1837		#3 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 2:15:36 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,898 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)		Motors are identical externally (well all but). If the 202 doesn't have a HK-HG sump you'll have to fit a HK-HG sump and pickup. But that's about it. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who woul
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peter_flane		#4 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 4:14:40 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,384		I went from a 149 to a 161 to a 202 red and the only items I had to change were keeping my sump. I already had a 202 carby and manifold on the 149, so it went along for the ride. There wouldnt be a massive difference between a 186 and 202 carby.
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peter_flane		#5 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 4:14:40 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,384		I went from a 149 to a 161 to a 202 red and the only items I had to change were keeping my sump. I already had a 202 carby and manifold on the 149, so it went along for the ride. There wouldn't be a massive difference between a 186 and 202 carby.
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HK1837		#6 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 4:32:40 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,898 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)		Forgot - has to be a red 202 to be 100% compatable. Blue and black have a different head and hence different manifold and exhaust. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords
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Guest		#7 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 5:53:13 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Yeah mate, its gonna be a red one. Thanks for your advice lads, looks like gonna be a red 202.

Guest		#8 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 6:30:32 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Ive just secured a recond 202 for $300. An old fella was doing it up for his car and apparently something happend to the car and he just wanted to get rid of it. Happy days I hope.

Guest		#9 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 6:30:32 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		I've just secured a recon'd 202 for $300. An old fella was doing it up for his car and apparently something happend to the car and he just wanted to get rid of it. Happy days I hope.

HQforme		#10 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 6:45:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 14/06/2007(UTC) Posts: 582		If theyre both reds, put the 186 head on the 202 bottom end for a bit of extra compression (smaller chambers if i remember). Rebuild it first of course. I just did my red 202. 40thou over, mild crow cam, ported the head and put in larger valves. It sco
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HQforme		#11 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 6:45:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 14/06/2007(UTC) Posts: 582		If they're both reds, put the 186 head on the 202 bottom end for a bit of extra compression (smaller chambers if i remember). Rebuild it first of course. I just did my red 202. 40thou over, mild crow cam, ported the head and put in larger valves. It sc
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HK1837		#12 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 7:21:53 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,898 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)		186 and 202 have the same chamber size. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
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HQforme		#13 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 10:00:18 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 14/06/2007(UTC) Posts: 582		Ok, cool, so why's the swap so popular? Inlet runners better, different valves?
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HQforme		#14 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 10:00:18 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 14/06/2007(UTC) Posts: 582		Ok, cool, so whys the swap so popular? Inlet runners better, different valves?
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boom		#15 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 10:28:43 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 990		rocker studs instead of bridges, making the rockers adjustable. the small chamber heads start from 173 IIRC. In cubes we trust.
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HK1837		#16 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 4:14:18 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,898 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)		quote: Originally posted by HQforme Ok, cool, so whys the swap so popular? Inlet runners better, different valves?
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HK1837		#17 Posted : Thursday, 24 April 2008 4:14:18 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,898 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)		quote: Originally posted by HQforme Ok, cool, so why's the swap so popular? Inlet runners better, different valves?
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HQforme		#18 Posted : Friday, 25 April 2008 4:33:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 14/06/2007(UTC) Posts: 582		Woah, knowing that now, its staggering the amount of people i see who have probably been mislead regarding this issue. Cheers! Lucky i decided to work my 202 head :-)
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HQforme		#19 Posted : Friday, 25 April 2008 4:33:42 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 14/06/2007(UTC) Posts: 582		Woah, knowing that now, it's staggering the amount of people i see who have probably been mislead regarding this issue. Cheers! Lucky i decided to work my 202 head :-)
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Guest		#20 Posted : Friday, 25 April 2008 6:04:10 AM(UTC)
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