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#1 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 8:57:56 AM(UTC)
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Hi all, my partners 1992 Hyundai Excel is playimng up and she was hoping someone out there might have some idea what's going on!!

Car was running great until this morning, when after a short stop jumped in to go again and the car turned over just fine but won't fire. The RACV came out and they determined I had no power at the injectors but I had good spark. The MPI fuse tested OK too, any ideas??


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202 and three on the tree, can't get more Aussie than that!!
202 and three on the tree, can't get more Aussie than that!!
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#2 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 10:31:39 AM(UTC)
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How did he check injector pulse?
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#3 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 1:18:31 PM(UTC)
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Heck could be a lot of things, best way would be to get a wiring diagram and follow back from the injectors.

I dont know anything about Hyundai's. Some cars turn power of to the fuel pump and injectors when you lock the vehicle and activate the antithe
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#4 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 5:55:05 PM(UTC)
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this may be a silly idea,,but if my computer plays up,, i totally disconnect it,,take power and battery out,,
this always resets it.
could this help with a modern car?
just a thought,
hope it helps
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#5 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 8:27:08 PM(UTC)
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A lot of those old Hyundai's had immobilisers retrofitted because they were so easy to steal. Someone could have removed a retrofitted immobiliser and a wire they've spliced back together may have come apart.
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#6 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 8:41:14 PM(UTC)
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Geez Pete ... get her a REAL car now ! :)

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#7 Posted : Sunday, 21 June 2009 10:05:06 PM(UTC)
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Sorry peterwmh a bit off topic but I wonder if there is some one in Korean complaining that their HQ 202 has no spark and another person replies "Get a real car, one thats made in Korean, not that Aussie junk. Just a sunday morning thought.
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#8 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 3:28:58 AM(UTC)
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Find out from a Hyundai dealer if the pulse for the injectors comes from the coil. Talk to a mate today who had a similar problem with a Falcon. Turns out a faulty ignition coil did not have enough kick to pulse the injectors.

Who in their right mind w
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#9 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 3:41:08 AM(UTC)
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Thanks guys, yeah I know Gary but it isn't bad little car!! Anyway he put a light in the plug to the injector and I turned the engine over and it didn't flash. The car makes a great spark so I don't think it's the coil. I disconnected the battery and c
202 and three on the tree, can't get more Aussie than that!!
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#10 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 4:13:20 AM(UTC)
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Just checked the fuel pump, it's still pumping fuel so it hasn't been shut down by this fault! Still looking!!

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202 and three on the tree, can't get more Aussie than that!!
202 and three on the tree, can't get more Aussie than that!!
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#11 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 4:34:20 AM(UTC)
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There would be an injector relay triggered by a pulse from the ECU. The relay may be at fault, or the ECU. The ECU may have a dry solder etc. I may be totally off the right path, but it may help. Try Google search for Hyundai injector relay or Hyundai 199
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#12 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 4:59:41 AM(UTC)
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Have had the same prob with a 1991 Hyundai S Coupe, same Mitsubishi engine & electrics. I changed the ECU after Googling the issue, made no difference. So I took the car to a Hyundai dealer for a fault scan, the car refused to communicate a fault code. To
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#13 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 5:27:31 AM(UTC)
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hi pete, there is a change over in 1992 about june/july so the wiring can be different.
both use a control relay under the rh side of the dash, the ecu is located behind it.
i would get a cheap led test light hook it on to + at the batter to see if you
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#14 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 8:36:45 AM(UTC)
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when you disconnect the battery leave it off for 24 hours, sometimes this resets them.
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#15 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 4:50:08 PM(UTC)
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Hi all, my partners 1992 Hyundai Excel is playimng up and she was hoping someone out ther
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#16 Posted : Monday, 22 June 2009 5:41:21 PM(UTC)
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I've got an idea, try this.
http://www.hyundaiperformance.com/forums/
http://www.hyundai-forum...548-hyper-australia.htm
Maybe this place would be better suited to junk. Then do the right thing and get her something Aussie and safe. I watched a f

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#17 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 6:32:15 AM(UTC)
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Getting closer, I got it running again, but the check engine light stayed on. It was flickering on the dash and a relay under the dash was clicking at the same time, I'm guessing this is the injector relay. It was running OK but as soon as I turned the
202 and three on the tree, can't get more Aussie than that!!
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 6:55:31 AM(UTC)
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the control relay under the dash does both the injectors fuel pump and ecu.
have you checked all the battery terminals, no wires fallen off etc? cars do funny things with earth problems, would be good to see what codes are in it if any,can be done with a
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 8:46:09 AM(UTC)
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Sure will do, thanks for your help so far! Cheers Peter

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#20 Posted : Tuesday, 23 June 2009 8:50:00 AM(UTC)
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They actually aren't a bad little car.
I'll admit to owning one, once, for 11 months.
It was the 3rd gen shape when they first came out, and they plugged it on TV with the Jerry Harrison "rev it up little boy & ride" ad.

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