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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 6 January 2016 6:53:23 PM(UTC)
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Is this colour unusual on a Monaro GTS

HT Monaro V8 GTS, 2/70,HT 80837, body# HT 34678M Trim# 1519-10X, Paint# 585-0152
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 6 January 2016 7:50:00 PM(UTC)
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I think it is NSW Ambulance Cream. What is more unusual is the old paint line on a 1970 HT.
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 6 January 2016 8:04:47 PM(UTC)
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Yes unusual

I have seen reference to this code on a EJ standard.

I was curious as to whether it might of been one of those few HT Monaro GTS's that were owned by the VIC police department.



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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 6 January 2016 8:58:29 PM(UTC)
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It won't be. There were two, and they were both 81837.
Those two were white, however.
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#5 Posted : Thursday, 7 January 2016 8:56:34 PM(UTC)
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Interesting just the same. Anyway this Monaro is on ebay at the moment. Note the paint code is shown correctly in a update at the bottom of the ad for this car.
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#6 Posted : Friday, 8 January 2016 8:30:34 AM(UTC)
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There is a known 81837 in this paint code. From memory it is a HG.

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#7 Posted : Friday, 8 January 2016 9:08:35 PM(UTC)
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..were these couple of 350's the GMH precursor for the "Candy Cars" of the early 1970's ?.....

....The XA Falcons burst onto the scene with those garish dayglo red stripes on plain white heavy built Falcon 351's for the Victoria Police ....

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#8 Posted : Saturday, 9 January 2016 10:29:58 AM(UTC)
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Victoria Police were very biased towards Ford for pursuit cars, even before the Customline. They also used Studebakers extensively.

The HT81837 cars were an aberration. The two Victoria police cars had almost sequential chassis and engine numbers, and were from May 1970.
There are other 81837 cars known from this same sequence, one of which is the car I think Warren is referring to above, although the one I'm thinking of is a HT and there may be yet another HG in similar paint spec.
It seems GMH targeted Victoria Police as a customer for HT81837, and you can see from the photograph that they were a special build, with Belmont style headlamp surrounds, hubcaps, delete stripes, special paint, delete badges, delete some of the stainless mouldings etc etc
The "Traffic Section" decal was added for the photograph, and was not on the cars actually used.

The cars were not well received by the Victoria Police drivers, who were very heavily biased in favour of the Ford product of the time for highway Patrol work, and they continued with XW, XY, XA, XB and XC. It was only with the Commodore that this changed.
As you rightly point out, the XA was the first of the candy cars.

In 1969 the road toll became a big issue in Victoria, with the "Declare war on 1034" campaign, and Victoria Police upped the capability of their pursuit cars, hence the Monaros, and the plain wrapper versions of the XW and XY GT. The higher visibility XA was part of "increasing presence", a term loved by the Victorian State Governments.

There is a book written on the subject titled "On Patrol in Gippsland", by a former Victoria Police traffic unit officer. I've spoken to him about some of the above and, while a Ford man, is a good bloke and a total petrol head.

Hope this helps.
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...These XA's were well specced four door falcon 500's with Camel (Vinyl) interior and rubber floor mats...otherwise a very potent beast

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#10 Posted : Saturday, 9 January 2016 5:23:36 PM(UTC)
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The NSW Police had a similar "high presence" with the Chargers. They were bold and stood out so as to deter speeding just by the number of cars you would see. Today it is all by stealth.

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#11 Posted : Saturday, 9 January 2016 7:16:27 PM(UTC)
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..I don't reckon it's ALL by stealth Warren as the Highway Patrol cars these days are far more emblazoned with the most gaudiest of colour schemes I've ever seen.....

....for whatever reason, we just happen to see more of 'em in the suburbs these days....(probably should be a new thread ?)

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#12 Posted : Saturday, 9 January 2016 7:49:57 PM(UTC)
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NSW Highway Patrol cars are bright today but very clever design as they are hard to pick front on.
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I find the wailing siren, the flashing lights and the angrily gesticulating Mr Plod to be a dead give-away.
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
NSW Highway Patrol cars are bright today but very clever design as they are hard to pick front on.



..Are we talking about the "front" in the rear view mirror, or the "front" coming at ya !! LOL

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I have to agree with Warren. Apart from the tapes, most of the time it used to be a game of cat and mouse.
Now it is mostly technology, at least in Victoria, and very little of it run by the police. I wonder what proportion of speeding fines come from pursuit vehicles these days?

The 2014-2015 Victorian state budget estimated $748M in traffic fine revenue, up $91M from the previous year and $71M of that coming from cameras. 1.3 million speeding tickets are issued per year in Victoria, and 77% are for less than 10km/h over the limit.

Tell me it isn't about finding a more efficient way to raise revenue.
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#16 Posted : Wednesday, 24 February 2016 7:02:06 PM(UTC)
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So would anyone know why this car was ordered in this particular colour??? Car is a Melbourne build 308 4speed 10 bolt with factory tramp rods......Im just wondering what its original intended purpose was.
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