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Hello people i am new to the forum.my old man and i have started to put his hr special 186s 4 speed opal back together its original he is the second owner he brought when he was working at a holden dealer he brought it off the owners nephew.heres the funny thing it has special badges and has premier badges on the rear pillows any one heard of this thank you .it has front disc brakes and its all white p.s my old man said that's the way the bloke got it brand new Edited by user Monday, 7 March 2016 12:56:40 PM(UTC)
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Is it a Dandenong car? If so can you get the code on the INSERT line on the body plate? The code will be 17xx for a 186S 4speed. If it isn't a Dandenong car and it has the original owner's manual the code may be in there.
The model code will tell you if it is a Special or Premier. |
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It won't have come out of the factory with both Premier & Special badges, although the dealer may have fitted them.
There are many differences between Premiers & Specials with both equipment & trim, so ID shouldn't be an issue. Even easier would be to post the numbers off the body ID plate. From those we can decipher the exact model, trim & paint details for you.
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Thanks for the replys. i will get the codes and put them up my dad has photos of the car back when he first brought it if i can work out how to put them up i will.my dad bought it in kyabram vic back in the 70s did many people get the 186s 4speed combo in the hr special model? Edited by user Monday, 7 March 2016 11:45:46 PM(UTC)
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My dads eyes are no good he gave me this code hr225p7107 it might not be right i will have a look this weekend when i get a chance i appreciate all your help Edited by user Tuesday, 8 March 2016 9:53:36 AM(UTC)
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It's probably HR225M - 7107. The letter after the 225 will either be A or M, representing Auto or Manual.
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Yes it is a m got him to have a look again so is it a hr special manual is that 7107 make the color white?
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Iam asking these questions because i wont to put it back together original as i can the way my dad would wont it to be its his pride and joy he has had it since he was 17 thanks for your help Edited by user Tuesday, 8 March 2016 10:45:14 AM(UTC)
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No, the 7107 number is just body number of that model out of the Melbourne (Dandenong) plant.
The TRIM number & PAINT & TOP (if any) number will tell us the paint colour(s) & trim colours.
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Sorry for wasting your time will get all the codes on the weekend when iam looking at it and if you're still willing to help me then that would be awsome.i have read a lot of stuff on the internet and your names everywhere
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I have the codes any help would be appreciated
Body-hr225mr-71071
Trim-510-e57
Paint-568-9562
Insert-782
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HR225MR = HR Special Sedan, manual, RH Drive
510 = GM-H code for Glacier White (all over) exterior paint
E57 = Dawson & Alaskan Aqua (Sadlon) interior trim
568-9562 = Dulux formula code for Glacier White paint
782 is the model extension code. This signifies the factory optional equipment fitted to Melbourne built HDs & HRs. In other words things like 186S, Opel 4-sp, LSD, disc brakes, power steering. What combination is yours & are you sure the number is 782 ?
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782 is not a valid code for HR that I know of. The known codes are at the moment:
0xx (161's)
1xx (186's)
2xx (X2)
4xx (not sure, think maybe fleet or taxi)
12xx (186S)
17xx (186S 4spd)
If this is a 186S 4spd with LSD and disc brakes I'd expect maybe 1746 or 1748. But there is still lots to learn yet. If the original owner and vehicle details are in the glovebox in the front of the owner's manual it should have the same code replicated there. |
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It is 1782 my dad sent me a photo of the tag it was hard to see thanks heaps guys iam thanful for help
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It has disk brakes 4speed opal 186s and it has premier badges and chrome on the boot like the premiers have
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Can you send me a photo of the tag? 1782 is a weird number. Does it have power steering? [email protected] |
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Interesting car, reminds me of one a mate had. A Special Sedan, 186S,4 speed,disc brakes. I can't remember the interior, but it had the Premier wheelarch & rocker mouldings. Can't recall if it wore
Premier badges. Since this was 30 years ago, things are hazy, but I remember it as all white.
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The car has wheelarc mouldings aswell i can put photos up just got to figure out how to do it what are rocker mouldings? Edited by user Wednesday, 9 March 2016 11:35:13 PM(UTC)
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Thanks for the photo. It is 1782. This is a new code to us. Can you possibly confirm its mechanical options:
186S
M20 4spd.
Front discs.
LSD? (any stickers under the bootlid or anywhere else)?
Diff ratio (should be on the collar behind the diff yoke, will be 3.36 or 3.55).
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Rocker mouldings are the wide stainless trim strips fitted to the sill panel, running along from the front wheel arch to the rear. These & the wheel arch mouldings were fitted as factory standard to Premiers.
They were also made available as a Nasco kit, which could be fitted by the selling dealer. It sounds like the dealer added many items to this car, e.g. the Premier badges.
It was commonplace in the 60s for owners to over-adorn their cars. Sometimes they just look a bit too 'busy'.
BTW, were the Special badges still on the car, that would look odd.
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