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#1 Posted : Monday, 17 October 2016 7:21:38 AM(UTC)
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Things have been a bit quiet on the forum of late, so I thought that I would spice it up a bit.

On the Saturday at the Monaro Nationals we ran a Holden trivia night. It was great fun with plenty of people scratching their heads.

Several of the questions were slightly controversial & there were a few that nobody could answer, out of a crowd of 90 plus Monaro enthusiasts.

I'll pose 4 questions to get things going.

1. What was the the first Holden to have black wiper arms ?

2. What was the first Holden to get a factory-fitted turbocharger ?

3. What was the first Holden with a (factory-fitted) Diesel engine ?

4. What was the first Holden to get factory-fitted alloy wheels as standard equipment ?

On the alloy wheel question, the LJ XU1 Sprintmasters were not actually fitted at the factory & are not on the broadcast sheet & the HX LE Polycasts wheels don't count as "alloys".

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#2 Posted : Monday, 17 October 2016 8:05:36 AM(UTC)
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Question 3
Do Bedford trucks count?
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#3 Posted : Monday, 17 October 2016 8:22:52 AM(UTC)
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1 total guess HJ
2 VL commodore
3 te Gemini
4 total Guess VE commodore alloys on all models I think they are pos so don't have anything to do with them now like them as much as holden dealers
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#4 Posted : Monday, 17 October 2016 8:26:32 AM(UTC)
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Question 3
Do Bedford trucks count?


No, must have a Holden badge.
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#5 Posted : Monday, 17 October 2016 8:28:52 AM(UTC)
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1 total guess HJ
2 VL commodore
3 te Gemini
4 total Guess VE commodore alloys on all models I think they are pos so don't have anything to do with them now like them as much as holden dealers


1. No
2. No
3. No
4. No
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#6 Posted : Monday, 17 October 2016 8:29:59 AM(UTC)
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2. Piazza if you count it as a Holden?
3. Gemini.
4. N66 rim on LH-LX if you count Torana as a Holden. Otherwise HZ Sandman, GTS or any N67 optioned HZ.
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2. Piazza if you count it as a Holden?
3. Gemini.
4. N66 rim on LH-LX if you count Torana as a Holden. Otherwise HZ Sandman, GTS or any N67 optioned HZ.


2. Correct
3. No
4. No
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#8 Posted : Monday, 17 October 2016 8:49:10 AM(UTC)
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Isuzu Piazza were they even made in a holden factory? I saw one of them once only once
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Isuzu Piazza were they even made in a holden factory? I saw one of them once only once


We had to have simple rules & if it was badged Holden, HSV or HDT it was in.

BTW, there are several minor differences between an Isuzu Piazza & a Holden Piazza.

There are many 'Holdens' that were not built in a 'Holden" factory.

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2. Piazza if you count it as a Holden?
3. Gemini.
4. N66 rim on LH-LX if you count Torana as a Holden. Otherwise HZ Sandman, GTS or any N67 optioned HZ.


2. Correct
3. No
4. No


I missed the "standard equipment" for question 4. This is going to be a race between N67 on GTS and Sandman and UC Sunbird SL/E for those two, but when did the TD Gemini SL/E get the 13" version of the N67 rim?

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2. Piazza if you count it as a Holden?
3. Gemini.
4. N66 rim on LH-LX if you count Torana as a Holden. Otherwise HZ Sandman, GTS or any N67 optioned HZ.


2. Correct
3. No
4. No


I missed the "standard equipment" for question 4. This is going to be a race between N67 on GTS and Sandman and UC Sunbird SL/E for those two, but when did the TD Gemini SL/E get the 13" version of the N67 rim?



You're getting warmer !

Weren't HZ N67s a 1979 thing ?

What about questions 1 & 3 ?

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#12 Posted : Monday, 17 October 2016 9:57:08 AM(UTC)
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2. Piazza if you count it as a Holden?
3. Gemini.
4. N66 rim on LH-LX if you count Torana as a Holden. Otherwise HZ Sandman, GTS or any N67 optioned HZ.


2. Correct
3. No
4. No


I missed the "standard equipment" for question 4. This is going to be a race between N67 on GTS and Sandman and UC Sunbird SL/E for those two, but when did the TD Gemini SL/E get the 13" version of the N67 rim?



You're getting warmer !

Weren't HZ N67s a 1979 thing ?

What about questions 1 & 3 ?

Dr Terry


Was it an earlier Gemini? Sandpiper had wheel covers.

N67 replaced N66 in the HZ order procedure on 18/9/78 which was for orders, but they started making stock vehicles from around that date with N67 rims.

Question 1 never really taken any notice. HQ SS or GTS sedan something like that that came out not long before ADR12 came out?

Question 3 I can't recall a Holden badge on anything with a diesel prior to Gemini unless you are talking about Jackeroo or Rodeo introduced around 1980.


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My answers are:-

1. LH Torana Plus 4
2. Piazza
3. Rodeo
4. TD Gemini SL/E

Here's 4 more.

1. What was the first Holden to have Power Steering available ?
2. What was the first Holden to get Power Disc Brakes as standard equipment ?
3. What was the first Holden to get leather seats ?
4. What was the first Holden to get a metric speedo (not a export model) ?

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As a guess on these ones:

EJ
HK GTS or HK Brougham depending which one was built first.
Production EJ Prem?
Metric only or dual? HA Viva or a HB?
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48/215 or FJ had leather.
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48/215 or FJ had leather.


Correct

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As a guess on these ones:

EJ
HK GTS or HK Brougham depending which one was built first.
Production EJ Prem?
Metric only or dual? HA Viva or a HB?


No
No
Ej, but not in production
Dual scale & an HA is not a Holden.

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OK, first power disc brakes standard on HB when the 70 engine optioned or Brabham package optioned?

LJ for first dual scale speedo?



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OK, first power disc brakes standard on HB when the 70 engine optioned or Brabham package optioned?


The Series 70 engine was only an option for all models, but the Brabham 'package' was virtually a separate 'model' so that's my answer.

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LJ for first dual scale speedo?



No

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I don't know the answers but I enjoy your quizs Dr Terry. Keep them coming.
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