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#1 Posted : Monday, 1 May 2017 5:26:55 PM(UTC)
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Anyone know someone who has tried one of these? Been thinking about on for my HK, just the bare bones one (not polished SS bits) as i'd paint black over the SS anyway.

Idea is to get power steering and far better sump and steering box clearances. Initially for SBC but maybe later BBC or LS engine.


As an aside, they run XF Falcon rotors and VS calipers. Not too keen on the VS calipers as they are only 54mm pistons. I'd rather run 60mm so the piston area is the same as XF, so then I could leave the XF Falcon rear drums as is and not have to sleeve down the cylinders, and then just run a falcon master cylinder. Even if it means rebuilding a HK booster with a later UC or Commodore front part and run an XD-XE master cyl.

Does anyone know of a 60mm single piston or 42mm dual piston caliper (same piston area as 60mm) that will bolt in where standard VS calipers fit? I know VT are 42mm twin but they are a bigger disc so caliper won't fit with XF discs.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, 2 May 2017 10:30:33 AM(UTC)
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Talked to Rodtech. Looks like they can supply fabricated BA Falcon hubs and BA discs which are a 298mm x 28mm rotor, and supply AUII Falcon calipers. AUII are the same basic calipers as VT, so PBR twin 42mm pistons, which would give almost the same clamping force as a single 60mm piston (aka XF Falcon).

Thus I'd effectively have the same setup as an XF Falcon but with slightly bigger front rotors (298x28 BA versus 287x25 XF) and twin 42mm pistons (2770sqmm clamping versus 2827sqmm of the single 60mm caliper), as I have XF rear drums on XY 9" with custom axles done to HQ pattern with HQ drums (same dimensions as XA-XF drums). So depending upon what the Engineer wants for a master cylinder it isn't all that hard to rebuild a HK double diaphragm booster with a front on it to suit an XE or XF master cylinder with inbuilt prop valve & switch, will just need to make up new lines. Hopefully this will be all pretty well balanced initially with an XF probably not weighing all that much different to a HK with cast iron lump in the engine bay. I may be able to get away with an XA-XB master as these also have 60mm pistons front calipers and the same rear wheel cylinders, that way I could leave the HK booster, distribution block and brake fail switch and just need new lines to the block. Try and see and maybe fit a prop valve in the rear circuit if needed. Bit of homework required for the pushrod depth but easy to fix. Little trick I just learned, if you need a 1.125" bore master cylinder, '68 to '82 Corvette cylinder fits exactly where a HK-HJ one fits.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 2 May 2017 8:17:15 PM(UTC)
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Guy I know has one. I can put you in touch if you like. He loves it.

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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 2 May 2017 8:28:10 PM(UTC)
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The fact he loves it is probably good enough! Could you ask him one question - do you have to modify any part of the subframe? The car is all painted and pretty, would hate to have to start cutting!

Edit - another query on these. Rodtech have the option to lower the engine mounting points 25mm, as the top of the crossmember (under the sump) sits 40mm lower than original. This would mean the gearbox could be also lowered by 25mm. Would 25mm lower be enough to allow say a 4L60E to fit better (without hacking the floor member)? Might also allow a Muncie to fit easier without a large floor blister for shifter clearance. I saw the 400SBC and 4L60 in my mate's HK the other day, he had to hack to floor member underside to fit it, but 25mm extra may see it fit?

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#5 Posted : Thursday, 4 May 2017 5:48:06 AM(UTC)
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My mate has a Tremac 5 (or maybe 6) speed in his. he cut the tunnel from a HQ and grafted that in to make it all fit. I will give him a call over the weekend and see what he thinks.
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Thanks heaps. Will be interesting to hear what he says about any mods to the subframe. I'm not going to cut this car in any way, it is a anally restored body, restored to June 1968 specs for a 307 auto GTS, so banjo and standard wheels which were still standard on auto GTS at that stage. Would love to fit a 4L60E if it'll fit with a 25mm lower driveline but if not i'll stick with the TH350.
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#7 Posted : Thursday, 4 May 2017 5:05:31 PM(UTC)
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This just in from my mate with the front end fitted.

The Rodtech front end bolted up no problems, no cutting – had to get a Moroso sump to suit std Chev 8 ¼” deep, with the 25mm lower mounts, the HKTG sump won’t fit. At Summernats I looked at the Castlemaine Rod Shop version, in my opinion it was way bigger (heavier) & not as well thought out as the Rodtech
There was another company there ‘Retrorack’ I didn’t Like theirs at all, looked agricultural , homemade - not pretty like the stainless steel arms and spindles that Rodtech supplies std


I forgot to say re: the Rodtech front, if he wants to use a turbo 400 or a Tremec trans – he will have to change the floor tunnel like I did – the main reason I had the 25mm lower engine mounts was for drivetrain alignment, needed even with the tunnel change.
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#8 Posted : Thursday, 4 May 2017 5:42:42 PM(UTC)
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Thx, helps heaps!
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