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Just wondering if anyone here knows if 599-00364 black is the same as 599-5285 black?
I read on another forum that code S228 general purpose acrylic is Dulon 599-00364
Acrylic 599-5285 has been mentioned on this forum a few times but the only acrylic GP black used on HK was S228 which apparently is 599-00364, unless the internet lies!
Its a smokey satin black used on many parts on my car and it was used through HQ and most Toranas.
I've got a great sample of it but it would be nice to know what Dulon number to write on the label.
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On 17/12/73 on the GMH Engineering Car Colour Specifications sheet for HQ Sandman S228 is also referred to as 599-00364. This black was used in HQ plenum chamber, dash panel and front body pillar outer panel (I think this is under the screen and stainless). The same document does not reference 599-05285. The other blacks used on HQ are: S263 which is 578-4149 which is the satin black used on Sandman: Rocker panel, Front Fender (lower and louvres), body side (lower), rear end panel (beaver) and front end panel (lower). This is the same satin black used on inside plastics like the column. S113 which has no Dulon code. It was used on front fenders (underside), Wheelhouse assembly (underside), front end frame complete and radiator support panel. I think this may be the slops/slush black hence no Dulon code. Remember these are internal GMH paint codes too, you may have trouble finding them elsewhere. I have a formula for 578-04149 but not for the 599 blacks. Edited by user Monday, 21 August 2017 8:04:45 AM(UTC)
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S228 is listed in the HK engineering data sheet and its the only 'general purpose' acrylic lacquer on the list appart from the black primer. Yeah I read S228 was Dulon 599-00364 for the Sandman. I'm a bit confused because 599-5285 has been mentioned on this forum numerous times as the black acrylic lacquer for "subframe, firewall, fender undersides and mostly the underside of the car" Theres only one acrylic lacquer listed so I wonder where the 599-5285 idea come from? Anyway I'll just call it black. Thanks again, Wayne 
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Maybe 599-5285 is the refinish code for S113 slush black, ie GMH chassis black? This has no code as it was never the same but for refinish they gave it a code? Anytime I ever bought GMH chassis black it was just a thin black (as in required no thinners) that you sprayed straight out of the can, it never looked any good though. Remember though, you have a GTS thus it has gloss Warrigal black on the firewall and inner guards plus radiator support. GTS and Brougham were done this way. Just straight gloss off the gun, no finishing. Edited by user Monday, 21 August 2017 8:07:00 AM(UTC)
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Yeah maybe that is the slush paint.
The semigloss paint I'm thinking of (I'm only guessing S228) is used on about 30 individual parts of the car, bonnet springs, splash trays, heat shield, battery tray, fuel tank covers, radius rods and brackets, G.box crossmember, peddle assembly, horns and several other black bits including I think, my radiator support panel.
Are you sure the radiator support was warrigal, I dont reckon mine was.
I cant imagine at what point in production they would have separately painted a few radiator support panels warrigal.
This is why I'd love to have a few of the engineering documents to read through and see which item received what paint.
Yanky cars are so much easier to get correct because all of the engineering details are freely available.
Thanks again mate
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I meant on the engine bay side of the radiator support. HK GTS and Brougham were sprayed gloss Warrigal black in the engine bay. |
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Oh that radiator support, I was talking about the upper support panel then. The whole front of my subframe was warrigal from top to bottom, is that not usually the case? You can see a small area I cleaned.  My upper support panel had no sign of warrigal on it. Looks dull in the photo but its actually the same paint used on the bonnet springs and all those other areas I mentioned. 
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Must be. You could not tell for certain on any of my HK GTS's what was on the front of the radiator support or that top removeable piece, only that the firewall, inner guards and engine side of the radiator support were gloss originally. |
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