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Trying to decypher/decode GMH order # :- I Have and am trying to make sense of:-
M 13621 - LJ - 1971 - Adelaide
8 12869 - VK - 1985 - Adelaide
6 95916 - VK - 1985 - Adelaide
8 28472 - HQ - 1972 - Brisbane
M 14162 - HK - 1968 - Melbourne
M 45563-3 - HQ - 1972 - Melbourne
P 06661 - LJ - 1973 - Adelaide
2 27932 - LX - 1977 - Melbourne
7 33325 - VC - 1980 - Adelaide
617xxx - VC 1980
618xxx - VC 1981
705xxx - VH 1982
Is there any method to this maddness?
Any help appreciated.
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Warren will probably know exactly, but it looks as simple as the first character is the Zone Office designation, and the 5 digit number being the dealer's order number. |
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Not sure how the first number works, but the last part is very simple.
Each dealer is given an invoice/order book which is pre numbered sequentially, this is that number.
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Originally Posted by: Warren Turnbull  Not sure how the first number works, but the last part is very simple.
Each dealer is given an invoice/order book which is pre numbered sequentially, this is that number.
Warren Thanks Warren, OK so if you have an order # and a big enough database you can workout the ordering dealer. cheers
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The ordering dealer is on the Production Broadcast.
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Originally Posted by: Warren Turnbull The ordering dealer is on the Production Broadcast. That HK order # / Production Broadcast sheet (1968) does not have DLR (Code)on it. I am not sure when "Code" first appeared on a Production Broadcast sheet. My earliest Production Broadcast sheet with a code is 6/9/1972. My latest Production Broadcast sheet without a code is 16/12/1968. Dealer codes were first issued by GMH in 1962 as warranty / financial claims reference number per dealer. I believe based on the GM - Pontiac system.
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I have a 4/69 with it on.
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Originally Posted by: Warren Turnbull I have a 4/69 with it on. Thanks Warren, It would be interesting to track the evolution of the production Broadcast Sheet. Not even sure when they were first used or in what form on the production line. May have something to do with the proliferation of options in the late 60's. And higher levels of computer generated info. Cheers Edited by user 7 years ago
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Prefix for the plant where the vehicle was to be completed I guess.
M = Ordered for Melbourne
P = Ordered for Perth (with an Adelaide body in your example)
A - Ordered for Adelaide
S = Ordered for Sydney
Looks like sometime in 1972 the prefix changed from a letter to a number signifying I dont know what.
Maybe it just gave them more numbers to play with.
As Warren mentioned, there is no order to the 5 digit order numbers.
The next car ordered through Market Motors Dandenong after my car 00052 would have been 00053, if they used the same order book.
M 00052 Nov.1968 HK - Ordered by Market Motors Dandenong
M 14162 Nov.1968 HK - Ordered by someone else
Heres another one for ya
A 12031 Nov.1972 HQ
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The broadcast sheet was introduced late in 1968, the Modern Motor 307 4 speed Premier was built on the old system of stickers on the window, see magazine article of build process.
You are right about the reason, it was ti reduce errors on the production line due to the endless possibilities.
I have sheets from 1968 to late VN in the A4 format, and have recorded the evolution. (I have been fortunate that many have sent me copies of sheets and some guys have sent me bundles of late model sheets)
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add M 28887 4/69 by dealer 306
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Originally Posted by: Warren Turnbull add M 28887 4/69 by dealer 306 306 Country 3 VIC 1 BALLARAT Wyres Bros (Ballarat Vic closed in May of 1980) Vauxhall 1957 1/1/1947 1/5/1980 602 Sturt Street, Ballarat, Victoria, 3350 3350 81 Sid and Sam Wyres John Trevenen
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The HQ SS Press cars have the following order nos.
A016455 Dealer 266
M83241 Dealer 263 Acacia Ridge build
M83242 Dealer 264 Pagewood build
M83243 Dealer 264 Pagewood build
M83244 Dealer 264 Pagewood build
M83245 Dealer 265 Dandenong build
M83246 Dealer 265 Dandenong build
M83247 Dealer 265 Dandenong build
The last 7 have the original order nos.range from M46571-M46577 crossed out and those listed added.
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Originally Posted by: Balfizar Originally Posted by: Warren Turnbull add M 28887 4/69 by dealer 306 306 Country 3 VIC 1 BALLARAT Wyres Bros (Ballarat Vic closed in May of 1980) Vauxhall 1957 1/1/1947 1/5/1980 602 Sturt Street, Ballarat, Victoria, 3350 3350 81 Sid and Sam Wyres John Trevenen Just to clarify a couple of details here. - Sid and *WILLIAM* Wyres were the Wyres Bros. - Sam is Sid's son. - John took over William's share of the business when William passed away. - Sam took over Sid's share of the business when Sid passed away. - Closing date was 14/05/1980, not 01/05/1980 - Not sure of the day/month of opening, but 1947 is correct. - Open with the Rootes franchise in 1947 (Hillman, etc) - Got Vauxhall *and* Bedford in 1957/1958 - (there's some conjecture on the exact time) - Got Holden, Chevrolet, Pontiac, etc in about 1963 - (there were briefly THREE Holden dealers in Ballarat - Wyres Bros got a franchise while M G Taylor were being stripped of theirs). - Also had BMW right near the end - and in fact the last car they ever sold was a BMW 635 to John Trevenen himself. Edited by user 4 years ago
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I have a couple... for my company cars Dealer code 280 and for one of them Order 417636 Build had a vehicle tag of J757xxx oh ... and it was VC8VK35 121 pack build May'81  Edited by user 4 years ago
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