Probably a Dr Terry question again.

Just getting the 9" in the car, I was intending on just using the HK backing plates and other internal re-usable bits that are there now. I bought a new kit for it with new springs, pins, clips etc and have a set of new HQ-WB rear shoes (1337 I think they are) plus some old stock Made in Aus PBR HQ-WB rear wheel cylinders. I just went to put it together and had totally forgotten about the HK brake rear shoes (for disc front) don't use the little pushrods either side of the wheel cylinder like a HQ-WB. What do you call these things exactly, and where can you get them from? Of all the cr@p in my shed I do not have a pair of HQ-WB rear brakes to get them from. I have about 6 sets of HK-HG rear brakes, but they are all the same as the ones on the car.

While I'm at it, are all the re-usable bits inside the brake assembly like the self adjuster and the park brake strut and the adjuster assembly the same between HK and HQ-WB? I always thought they were but just checking. Otherwise I'll have to track down a set of HQ-WB rear brakes somewhere to get all the bits.

Edit, just spoke to local brake bloke who is very good on these. All stuff the same just need those rods (and the shoes and cylinders of course). There is a guy near me with a set of LH-LX rear drums cheap, I assume these are the same rods? From memory they look the same. Shame I chucked all this stuff away years ago.

Edited by user Monday, 2 September 2019 5:30:55 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Sorry, I missed this post earlier.

Given that these little pushrods were unchanged from HK to WB, you would think that they would be easier to find 2nd hand.

On the subject of the gaskets, originally they were fitted between the backing plate & the retainer plate to stop any oil leaking past the inner seal & around the bearing from getting on the brake shoes. Many mechanics don't worry about them, especially if the replacement bearing has an o-ring in the outer edge.

Dr Terry

What axles are you using Byron ?

The reason I ask is that HK/T/G rear drums have an unusually large offset to allow for the rear brakes. What I mean is the distance from the housing end to the axle flange is much more than Ford or HQ etc.

Dr Terry

E-mail sent. AL.

Thanks for the offer guys, much appreciated, but I found some (see post 2 above). They aren't cheap but they are new. I ordered another bit off the seller too that I needed so I only paid the one postage amount.

Yes, HQ-WB drum brakes. Diff is shorter overall by 3/4" each side though so I can run 15x7 Pontiac Rally Rims or Chevelle SS rims (same backspace) and keep the rear track basically the same as HK-HG 6" rear (HK with spacers of course).

Will be using the HK backing plates with HQ shoes and drums.

Will look closer, axles wrapped in plastic.

Will measure the backing plates, look identical to me.

I see what you mean. The drums and shoes are essentially the same but there is a bigger “recess” in the backing plate where the axle end goes. Means I have to chase down some decent HQ backing plates! The ones I have here are rusty and buggered.

Edited by user Tuesday, 3 September 2019 4:49:10 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I'm not sure, but I've only noticed the scalloped rear drums on early HKs.

Dr Terry

I just looked at another 2 pairs of HQ-WB backing plates and a Torana set. All had the same bad recessing of the rearmost pin heads’ meaning the trailing shoes would be loose on all of them. I wonder if it is the self adjusters that cause it? Every set I have checked the adjustment screw has been tight and there is no way that little alloy adjuster would turn them.