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#21 Posted : Monday, 13 December 2021 5:23:56 AM(UTC)
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All I can say is what a load of self opinionated rot! Comical actually!
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If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
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#22 Posted : Tuesday, 14 December 2021 7:02:01 AM(UTC)
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There are two sides to this story.

Value now days seems almost exclusively to rest with original examples. Whether an old guy reliving his youth, a hipster making lattes at a cafe using it as a work or promotional vehicle, a cashed up young dude hoping to pick up, an enthusiast adding to his collection, investors wanting to cash in, or a money launderer, they all seem to be looking for original examples, restored or survivors.

Now for 1837's point, there is a great argument to modify basic cars. You wouldn't in sane mind for instance modify a HK GTS 327, or a HQSS, or a GTS 350 of any kind even if they were shit to drive compared to modern cars, hot in the cabin, tight heavy steering and no brakes, and just plain dangerous in the wet. However if you did want a classic car, wanted to improve the driveability and safety, the only sane thing to do is to modify a base model car, or something that is so far from original in the first place that chasing the parts and returning it back to stock trim is to arduous and expensive, and you would like to drive the car this decade.

Thus 1837's argument, best modify it and use it unless you are a staunch purist.

Now look at base model HK Monaro. try to find one especially a V8, they were all modified and turned into GTS copies or parted out for other cars, now you are looking at V8 GTS prices or more if you can find one. Same goes for premiers and station wagons to a slightly lesser extent, unobtainable with prices surging.

Both arguments have merit. If you want to drive it safely, long distance in any weather with mod cons modify it but make sure all can be easily returned back to original and try to keep the original parts. I think the future may rest more towards the original base model survivor cars or restored base models as they are very thin on the ground , all the investment grade popular models are out of reach for the average punter.

I personally enjoy the raw driving experience or no air conditioning, vinyl floor coverings, non retractable seat belts or no seat belts at all, crash box column shift manual, understeer, magma hot vinyl seats in summer, the smell and the feeling of about to roll over at any moment, not for everyone.

At the end of the day its all about enjoying the hobby, modified, restored or original.
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#23 Posted : Tuesday, 14 December 2021 1:12:06 PM(UTC)
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I love original Survivor types and I understand why people restore the top spec cars especially the few true Muscle Cars built in Australia like HK-HG 1837’s. I even admire people who anally restore a car that is a lower spec car when it is complete. However to say it is dumb to not faithfully restore a HQ Belmont ute missing its original 173 is actually dumb and in my opinion is totally ill-informed. To put it into perspective, I own the oldest known surviving V8 HK GTS. It has already been faithfully restored body and paint, it is Warwick Yellow with black trim. It’s original V8, Powerglide and V8 banjo were gone long ago, it had been fitted with another very good original driveline from a low kM Brougham we wrecked years ago from radiator to mint original exhaust (other than the tailpipe which is repro). I’ve ripped all that out, I fail to see the point in it. It’s getting a Rodtech front end with power steer, injected 377, TH350C, 9” and Vintage Air plus V2 CV8 seats. The whole body is remaining unmodified and extra hole free. And it’ll be worth far more when I’m done than it would be left as it was with the wrong driveline parts.
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#24 Posted : Tuesday, 14 December 2021 4:49:13 PM(UTC)
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Hey, HK1837, it might be time to pull your head in a bit. A lot of what you are posting comes across as "I'm super, clever, wonder person; My way is the only way and everyone else is an idiot." It is probably unintentional.
No offence intended and the mods can delete this or ban me if they want, nothing puts me off a forum more than someone who seems to be full of themselves.
Just feedback.
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#25 Posted : Tuesday, 14 December 2021 6:11:09 PM(UTC)
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Well put it this way, there is no need for me to pull my head in. I was responding to someone who to me seemed full of themselves with ridiculous statements like in post 20. If you can't see that well I'm sorry and that isn't my problem. It is an opinion and stated as such.

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#26 Posted : Wednesday, 15 December 2021 7:47:58 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Go to Quoted Post
I own the oldest known surviving V8 HK GTS.




Sorry this isnt on topic to the post but out of curiosity, just how low is the body number?

At a recent carshow here in NZ, a gentleman turned up with HK81837 body number 8 👍
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