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#1 Posted : Sunday, 11 June 2023 8:50:28 PM(UTC)
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Hi
Can anybody give me any info on a Vb commdore if I post up the compliance plates?
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#2 Posted : Monday, 12 June 2023 2:57:29 AM(UTC)
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Hi
Can anybody give me any info on a Vb commdore if I post up the compliance plates?


Yes, no problems.

The info needed is from the Body ID plate, the (skinny) VIN plate & the ADR compliance plate.

Also check to see the the chassis number stamped into the radiator support panel (if it's still there) matches the number on the ADR compliance plate.

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Get its engine number too and I'll most likely be able to tell you if it can't belong to the car.

You are probably pretty safe with a VB though as there are hardly any worth big $ so less likely to be faked into a HDT or something other than what it is. Probably the most sought after would be an L31 M41 or L31 M21 SL/E, although there were heaps made lots got wrecked for their drivelines in the 80's. They were like Devilles, you'd buy whole cars for $1500 with good engine and box in them.
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8L69L16501700B

Model 8VL69BR
Body 501700-S
Trim 1945-63X
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967-30583

Eng L14
Trans M40
Axle GU4
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Car presents as a brown Vb sl 3.3 red auto sl
With cream interior
Interesting this is it looks as tho the compliance plate has been removed at some stage
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Car presents as a brown Vb sl 3.3 red auto sl
With cream interior
Interesting this is it looks as tho the compliance plate has been removed and replaced at some stage
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8L69L16501700B

Model 8VL69BR
Body 501700-S
Trim 1945-63X
Paint
967-30583

Eng L14
Trans M40
Axle GU4


VB SL sedan (8VL69BR)
Pagewood Sydney Build (Body 501700-S and nice to see numbers agree .. see 8L69L16501700B)
red 202 engine (L14)
trimatic trans (M40)
Std diff .. 3.08 probably (says GU4 but need the broadcast sheet to see if LSD or HD)
Trim is buckskin


HTH



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Paint is Sandalwood Metallic (Sandpiper Beige).

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It always amazed me that Pagewood, Dandenong, Elizabeth and Acacia Ridge reset the PSN as it was all still in the same mainframe database and all vehicles indexed by PSN. This one was H501700 but that most likely was also a HK and if not it’s something else assembled at Pagewood. What I mean is the database of vehicles in that IBM system was entered by PSN only. You regularly find fluffs in the records where someone has typed the wrong number for say a Torana PSN and over-wrote the data they were entering for the Torana (engine number, selling dealer etc) over say a HQ or HT or whatever else was in the system. So what happened once they reached H999999 or H499999 for respectively Pagewood and Acacia Ridge? Or for others like Elizabeth PSN's that over-wrote Mosman Park PSN's? We know they then re-used H500000 and H100000, what happened to the records that were originally against those PSN’s? It was an open database so hard to erase all fields against a PSN.

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It always amazed me that Pagewood, Dandenong, Elizabeth and Acacia Ridge reset the PSN as it was all still in the same mainframe database and all vehicles indexed by PSN. This one was H501700 but that most likely was also a HK and if not it’s something else assembled at Pagewood. What I mean is the database of vehicles in that IBM system was entered by PSN only. You regularly find fluffs in the records where someone has typed the wrong number for say a Torana PSN and over-wrote the data they were entering for the Torana (engine number, selling dealer etc) over say a HQ or HT or whatever else was in the system. So what happened once they reached H999999 or H499999 for respectively Pagewood and Acacia Ridge? Or for others like Elizabeth PSN's that over-wrote Mosman Park PSN's? We know they then re-used H500000 and H100000, what happened to the records that were originally against those PSN’s? It was an open database so hard to erase all fields against a PSN.


HK... all a hangover from the days when each individual plant had paper records and only paper records I reckon

the old plants making stuff , like Birkenhead and Beverly in SA, DISCO in Melbourne etc all even Woodville started with paper
only as I found when I started. DISCO daily production and parts usage was hand written on 99 column paper (in pencil)
brought up to Plant Accounting in Salmon st and verified by us bean counters the next morning.

Then taken down to EDP at Dandenong that afternoon and key punched onto paper tape.. and fed into the IBM mainframes
Next morning.... back came the output of that for checking and if OK, signed off by the Plant Accounting Manager
.. in the case of when I started a guy called Alan Nanscawen and posted into the books and ledgers

So PSN Numbers? yeah a dogs breakfast

and as for the guys who claim all matching numbers (like FORD did) ? They are having us on.. just not possible
and you have given one of the main reasons why!

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PSN’s were all in the IBM mainframe though. Broadcast sheets were printed out of it. All the HK to HZ and LC to HZ’s were in there indexed by PSN.
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PSN’s were all in the IBM mainframe though. Broadcast sheets were printed out of it. All the HK to HZ and LC to HZ’s were in there indexed by PSN.


yes... and one thing I chuckle about is, the guy in charge of GMH EDP at Dandenong (with the IBMs) when i was there was a bloke named Graeme FORD!
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PSN’s were all in the IBM mainframe though. Broadcast sheets were printed out of it. All the HK to HZ and LC to HZ’s were in there indexed by PSN.


yes... and one thing I chuckle about is, the guy in charge of GMH EDP at Dandenong (with the IBMs) when i was there was a bloke named Graeme FORD!
Funny the things you recall ...


My favourite one about names is that Bob Morris won Bathurst in a Holden, yet Bob Holden won Bathurst in a Morris !

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PSN’s were all in the IBM mainframe though. Broadcast sheets were printed out of it. All the HK to HZ and LC to HZ’s were in there indexed by PSN.


yes... and one thing I chuckle about is, the guy in charge of GMH EDP at Dandenong (with the IBMs) when i was there was a bloke named Graeme FORD!
Funny the things you recall ...


My favourite one about names is that Bob Morris won Bathurst in a Holden, yet Bob Holden won Bathurst in a Morris !

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