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Originally Posted by: Dr Terry  Originally Posted by: HK1837
No. XU2 was what people call the L34. It was always going to be what was later released but with no PO code, it was just then known by its engine code. SLR5000 was created as simply an SL/R with a 5.0L engine to fill the gap left by XU2. There was never going to be an LH with a 5.0L L31 engine, the D69 versions were intended to be the standard car, and the one optioned with the 4.2. XU2 was going to be based upon SL/R but be a different car with unique capacity engine, just like the LC XU1 was. LJ was meant to be like this too with the GTR getting a 2850S.
Yes, I get that but internally, say at L34 release was the term XU2 still used, or was it called the L34. A good example is the parts catalogue supplement. This catalogue covered all of the parts added or changed for the XU2/L34 as a whole & is titled "Torana SL/R with L34 option". The term XU2 is nowhere to be seen. You do see it mentioned in some 1973 literature but not so much in 1974. Dr Terry They pulled XU2 altogether. It was decided by the Vehicle Product Committee. Made formal on 1st August 1973 not to release XU2 at LH S.O.P. and decision to release an L31 engined car with N10, M21, front stabiliser bar, front air dam and rear end spoiler. There is hand written notes on the memo stating that it is probable the car will be labelled SLR 5000. They never used the PO code, its not in the LH POA documents, it was removed prior to 1974. It existed as the LH D69 optioned with L34 engine but only as blank space in the original POA docs , the sheet it would have been on was edited and revised 10 times post 1974. The PO code sat between XT4 (added to LH early in 1975) and XV1 (G pack added early in LH development). |
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Originally Posted by: HK1837 Originally Posted by: Dr Terry Originally Posted by: Smitty2
L34 was not just an engine option. There were other things in it like 14" 'rally' wheels, HQ sized front brake rotors
console delete, radio delete, round headlights (not rectangular like the rest of the LH range)
On the topic of "radio delete", in those days there really wasn't such a thing. Very few cars got a car radio as standard equipment. AFAIK the only LH models which got a factory radio as standard kit were the G-Pack & the Plus4. A push-button AM car radio was part of the option package for those 2 cars. The rest of the range including SL & SL/R had no radio fitted as standard, so there was no radio to "delete". To my knowledge no Holden prior to 1973, including Premier, Brougham & Statesman DeVille had any radio as standard equipment. The first factory standard radios were fitted to the 1973 update Deville & LJ Torana Deluxe. You often see on Ebay, EH or HK Premier radios for sale, leading some to believe that the Premier got one standard while the Special or Kingswood missed out, not so. You see the same with so called "heater delete" firewall blanking panels for HK & HT. There was no heater to be "deleted" in model HK/HT models. Dr Terry Terry, for some reason people want to create stuff like that. I think its a millennial thing, Smitty is just stating how it has become. I see the same sort of incorrect stuff perpetuated all the time. Like "windowless" panel vans. Or poverty pack Monaro or Statesman, even stating the Monaro was a Belmont coupe and the Statesman a long wheel base Belmont. People actually argue with you when told that the Monaro was slightly higher spec than a Kingswood sedan (as it got bucket seats standard with in some cases superior trim), and the Statesman was higher spec again than a Premier as Premier had front drum brakes standard until later HQ. Similar with LS being "just" a Premier coupe - sure that was the intention but it also had bucket seats and front disc brakes. ... thanks guys I wrote radio delete (and should have added console delete in that post) as in the few road going L34s that I have seen over the years, none have had a radio. All have had a blanking plate where a radio would normally go |
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I am actually wondering if GMH had already allocated 30-45 for LH Torana. When HQ XU7 was announced in December 1970, it was given the Sales code 84669. Why choose 44? When 18 was given to the GTS327 it was because they had already allocated 14 for Brougham, 11 and 12 for HT Premier, 13 for HQ 6cyl Deville and 15, 16 for HQ Statesman. So I reckon that they had already put aside the 30's for LH and maybe 40, 42 and 44 for V8 LH. So potentially V8 LJ could have used one of the LH codes. Lets just guess say 40 was V8 SL, 42 was V8 GTR/SLR and 44 was GTR/SLR special (XU1/XU2). Just like 14 was used for HQ Brougham and it ended with HQ Deville 44 could have started with V8 XU1 and ended with LH XU2. They'd have to have fitted the 4cyl and 6cyl LH models in the 30's, I left out V8 S but it could have fitted. Edited by user Tuesday, 29 September 2026 7:52:25 AM(UTC)
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