Need some info on front inner wheel bearing grease seals please.

There are two types of seal, disc & drum brake.

My HK has a HG disc front end in it and when I pulled it down I found drum brake type seals fitted. I have rung around, ebayed & googled only to find that you cant buy the seals on their own, only in a bearing kit. There must be something to this because RS doesn't appear to sell them separately, Repco can't find them and the usual burglar on ebay wants $30 for a pair.

You can buy "Holden" trailer axle seals which look very much like the disc seal, is that the fix or can someone steer me in the right direction.

http://www.ebay.com.au/i...423.l2649#ht_1956wt_1123

Edited by user Wednesday, 27 February 2013 6:46:54 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

The listing on these seals is most often incorrect.

There are basically 3 types of seals from mid-FE to VP Commodore. The part numbers I use are the common numbers used in the 1970s.

A. drum brake (C3592)
B. early disc brake (C6229)
C. late disc brake (C6666)

They all share the same dimensions, but their make-up is different.

A & B both have steel cases, A has felt as the seal & B has neoprene rubber. Many mechanics figured out that B was a better seal & was interchangeable, so A disappeared & B was used for all early disc & drum cars.

In late HQ, GM-H introduced type C, which was all neoprene with no steel case. It also differed in that it was fixed to the stub axle & the hub rotated around it (not vice versa, as with the older seals). This seal was much superior to the earlier seals so they used it as replacement for all disc braked cars HQ/LH onwards.

So to summarise. Use type B (C6229) for all cars (drum or disc) from mid-FE to HG & LC/LJ Torana 6 & any front drum-braked cars after that. Use type C (C6666) for all disc-braked cars HQ onwards & LH Torana onwards.

Dr Terry

I believe they are incorrect.
In all my years of selling Holden parts & racing them etc, I understood the two seals do a different job - or be it fit & work different to each other but with the same end result Seal the hub bearings from dirt entering.

The seal (with metal in it) is fitted up to WB, the seal fits into the hub & spins around the stub axle...the inside of the seal does the sealing so to speak.
The full rubber seal (no metal) was fitted in VB onwards Commodores & fits on the stub axle & the hub spins around it...the outside of the seal does the sealing so to speak.

Even though we sell the all rubber type seal at work for all Holdens I am wary that this is incorrect...

Yep, DrTerry is correct.
Just checked the Holden parts books we have & the 2829925 steel/rubber seal is listed to fit up to HQ (with discs) & the 9937294 rubber seal is listed to HJ-WB & beyond (Ccmmodore)

Thanks craigh & Dr Terry.

Think I might have opened a can of worms with this one, lol.

Sniffed around a bit more today and all enquiries ended with the same seals ie Kelpro 97322 which are the solid neoprene type, probably just happened to ping people who buy from the same supplier, anyway C6229 is the part number I quoted and they all said the Kelpro item is an alternate part number, felt like I was banging my head on a brick wall.

Rang the local Holden dealer and quoted craigh's 2829925 and asked if it was compatible with the HG... "Yes it is, unfortunately it's an obsolete part, but there are 6 listed with country dealers in South Australia", made the call and the price was right so there are now 4 in SA. When they turn up I'll post a photo on this thread.

Thanks again for your help with this.

Thanks Les, I did see that and looking at it again I did miss the word "ALL" and read it as they were for drum brakes, my fault entirely.

Edited by user Saturday, 2 March 2013 2:41:57 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

I pointed the error out to Repco and they got back to me to say that they've dropped the line until it's all sorted.