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#1 Posted : Sunday, 4 August 2013 6:16:29 PM(UTC)
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Iam wanting to swap the comercial square headlight nosecone on my van to a twin headlight HZ Premier nose cone, With already knowing that the guards will need to be swapped over with HZ style and I think by memory when once trying to fit WB Statesman wheel arch to trims to a HZ a couple of the the screw holes were a mismatch, so I am assuming a pair of HZ inner guards will also be on the list. I have the nosecone, radiator support, bumper bar including brackets and the wire harness, which is where my concerns begin are there any conversions required in this area??? some relays for the driving lights etc. Is it simply an area that I can just simply plug the HZ harness in where the WB harness was unplugged. All replies are very much appreciated thanks guys. cheers MS
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#2 Posted : Sunday, 4 August 2013 6:25:32 PM(UTC)
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You'll have to adapt the wiring harness, too much work to swap the WB over to a HZ harness. Just a few wiring mods, and i'd use relays as you say.
HZ front bar doesn't fit a WB properly, only 2 of the 3 bolts each side go into the chassis, so in a frontal crash the bar won't perform as designed. Will stay in place though.
Watch for metric vs imperial threads on body screws and inner guard phillips head screws.
I'd use the HZ inner guards as you say.
I'd also spend the time to modify the HZ radiator support to fit the WB radiator, just look at them side by side and you'll see what needs doing (open up hole for radiator and unpick side and bottom brackets off WB then weld onto HZ).
(Note HZ Prem has a Quad headlight front, twin headlight front is the Kingswood one).
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 6 August 2013 8:53:11 AM(UTC)
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Cheers HK Sorry my mistake, I have always been a bit dyslexic and just referred to the fronts as twin headlight due to the extra light being near the the standard single light on one side but I guess as you put it there is a total of four headlights all up. Is it really worth the hassle with fitting the WB Radiator being that it is cross flow and is designed for the WB,s 6cyl engine? Or just use the standard HZ radiator (6cyl) and use flexible radiator hoses.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, 6 August 2013 9:45:00 AM(UTC)
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A HZ 202 radiator would be about the same as a WB 202 radiator.

Are you after the look of a HZ?

Just change everything to HZ. Find a HZ to buy and wreck and change everything. You will have to register the HZ chassis as HZ though.
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, 6 August 2013 3:52:21 PM(UTC)
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Cheers HK Sorry my mistake, I have always been a bit dyslexic and just referred to the fronts as twin headlight due to the extra light being near the the standard single light on one side but I guess as you put it there is a total of four headlights all up. Is it really worth the hassle with fitting the WB Radiator being that it is cross flow and is designed for the WB,s 6cyl engine? Or just use the standard HZ radiator (6cyl) and use flexible radiator hoses.


Its one of those funny things, lots of people call then twin front, lots call them quad. I've tried to always used quad as it is what it really is. You can use the HZ radiator, won't need flexible hoses just HZ 202 hoses. The reason i'd use the WB radiator is if it is good it saves you buying another and already has a recovery setup ready to use. Using a secondhand HZ radiator is an unknown unless you get it cleaned out or buy a new one, plus you'll have to adapt the rcovery setup to it (which isn't hard).
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, 6 August 2013 6:32:03 PM(UTC)
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Yeah, twin headlight, quad headlight can be ambiguous. Just like twin cam & quad cam engines.

A twin cam engine is usually an engine with 2 cams in the head, but if the engine is say a V6, then it has 4 camshafts (2 in each head). So that makes it a quad cam, even though the head design is still 'twin-cam'.

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#7 Posted : Tuesday, 6 August 2013 7:35:47 PM(UTC)
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Also if you have/need a fan shroud it will be a little bit more stuffing around with a HZ radiator as the WB viscous fan may not work with a HZ 6cyl shroud (if you can find one)
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