Welcome Guest! To enable all features please Login or Register.

Notification

Icon
Error

Login


Take the time to read our Privacy Policy.
61 Pages«<5051525354>»
Sandman data - ready for critique.
Options Go to last post Go to first unread
Previous Topic Next Topic
HZute-efi-VS5L Offline
#1021 Posted : Tuesday, 9 March 2010 2:17:20 AM(UTC)
HZute-efi-VS5L

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/09/2006(UTC)
Posts: 778

Edited by user Tuesday, 9 March 2010 2:17:52 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

_______________________________________
www.stickthisdecals.com.au
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#1022 Posted : Tuesday, 9 March 2010 3:07:42 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,714

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 509 time(s) in 485 post(s)
I came to the conclusion many years ago that this particular page in the HZ parts catalogue is wrong.

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
crowe Offline
#1023 Posted : Tuesday, 9 March 2010 4:54:24 AM(UTC)
crowe

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 287
Australia
Yes I have the same book. If you go into the parts book the blues are listed for the panals etc, This is a revision (there are 2- April79 on trim chart & Oct80 illustration index) So after this date these changes now apply. So that doesnt mean it was not avaiable befor hand. So guys what are the last Sandman porduction dates- ute & vans ???? I have a May 79 build van
Back to top
crowe Offline
#1024 Posted : Tuesday, 9 March 2010 5:17:16 AM(UTC)
crowe

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 3/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 287
Australia
Also looking at monaros sandman info, it states that HZ sandmans have a XU3 or XX7 on the id plate. Mine has nothing, that must depend on what plant they were made in?
Back to top
HZute-efi-VS5L Offline
#1025 Posted : Tuesday, 9 March 2010 5:19:42 AM(UTC)
HZute-efi-VS5L

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/09/2006(UTC)
Posts: 778
Its in a revision though byron. Not the parts book itself..
_______________________________________
www.stickthisdecals.com.au
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#1026 Posted : Tuesday, 9 March 2010 6:08:50 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,714

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 509 time(s) in 485 post(s)
Crowe, Brisbane plant was the only one that stamped the special package code on the BODY plate. Other 3 x Sandman assembly plants didnt. You couldnt order a Sandman ute after March 1979. Vans were deleted in October.

Jason that scan you put up is just a revision page for the HZ Parts Catalogue. And its not right. I think its the same as the HX info from memory. My guess is someone stuffed up.

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
HZute-efi-VS5L Offline
#1027 Posted : Tuesday, 9 March 2010 8:03:29 AM(UTC)
HZute-efi-VS5L

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/09/2006(UTC)
Posts: 778
well that would explain everything! =)
_______________________________________
www.stickthisdecals.com.au
Back to top
rodney Offline
#1028 Posted : Tuesday, 9 March 2010 11:55:10 PM(UTC)
rodney

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 25/02/2010(UTC)
Posts: 8
Got HZ sandman van home in shed. It is advertised in this months unique cars page 216. I want to return it to as close to original as possible .L32 high compression is this just a 253 with heads shaved more or is there a difference in the crank shaft. if there is a difference is one of the following engine no. better suited to L32.QR 846928 or QR887183. Also should I paint the van with 2 pack or acryic?
Back to top
Dr Terry Offline
#1029 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 12:37:41 AM(UTC)
Dr Terry

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 6,057

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 202 time(s) in 183 post(s)
A high-compression 253 is the normal motor. The rare low-compression version just has deeper dished pistons.

All 253 & 308 heads are the same (model for model), there was no shaving.

On the topic of shaving V8 heads. its not that simple. If more than nominal amount is removed, the inlet manifold will also need machining just to fit it back on. On a straight 6 this is not an issue.

Dr Terry

_______________________________________

The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter.
If at first you don't succeed, just call it Version 1.0
Back to top
Absinth Offline
#1030 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 1:40:53 AM(UTC)
Absinth

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 15/09/2007(UTC)
Posts: 431
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/H...S_W0QQitemZ250593058266

How did you verify this as a genuine Sandman Byron? Is it the chassis number or something?
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#1031 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 3:38:42 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,714

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 509 time(s) in 485 post(s)
I dont remember it, but its in the register. I wouldnt have given 100% verification for it as there is nothing that 100% verifies it, but I do have a tyre placard recorded against it and in HZ the XX7 placard is unique to XX7. So with a combination of 1950kg GVW, 253 4spd and the correct tyre placard I would have told the owner Id be surprised if it wasnt. Especially if it has door switches and full length headlining. Put it this way, I record all XX7, XU3 and XU4 I find. I have getting close to 100 x HZ Sandmans recorded, and only 2 x HZ XU4. So while a derated GVW is not a Sandman guarantee its pretty close.

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
Absinth Offline
#1032 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 3:52:02 AM(UTC)
Absinth

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 15/09/2007(UTC)
Posts: 431
So in its current state with no tyre placard or body plate its just a rather expensive chassis with matching derated + 2 seater ID plates.
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#1033 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 4:21:32 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,714

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 509 time(s) in 485 post(s)
Basically yes. For me to record the tyre placard number the owner must have given it to me, so he/she probably has the glovebox. Its not worth $3,000 in my opinion, but someone might want a Windsor blue with 60V trim (that will be how I picked it - missed that before) 253 Sandman van. Ebay isnt the way to sell it though, as itll probably get pulled.

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
Absinth Offline
#1034 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 4:33:25 AM(UTC)
Absinth

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 15/09/2007(UTC)
Posts: 431
You need the body plate for colour and trim which is not included so no way to tell it is Windsor Blue with 60V trim or what running gear it had.
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#1035 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 5:42:43 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,714

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 509 time(s) in 485 post(s)
Ive got that info recorded for it, so whenever I got the info it was given to me along with the tyre placard number. Pretty strange that info isnt in the auction though?

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
adam PERTH Offline
#1036 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 11:36:57 AM(UTC)
adam PERTH

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Registered, Veteran
Joined: 3/08/2007(UTC)
Posts: 1,902
bryon, when you record them,, do you have a comments column like "chassis and tags only March 2010"?

or
$17500 Ebay Feb 2010??

WANTED:
-2 14 x 9.25 CSA style Centrelines.
-2 x 15 x 8 Dragway centrelines
Old holdens brought on the spot, quick decision, cash paid.
Back to top
HZute-efi-VS5L Offline
#1037 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 5:08:06 PM(UTC)
HZute-efi-VS5L

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/09/2006(UTC)
Posts: 778
I asked the bloke about the 3rd tag. he now has a pic of it up. Wonder where the body is....
_______________________________________
www.stickthisdecals.com.au
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#1038 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 5:25:54 PM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,714

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 509 time(s) in 485 post(s)
Adam, no I dont. I only record the info. The reason I started collecting ID was simply to solve some mysteries/trends that only a large chunk of ID can solve. It also helps to make sure that others cars have matching (or as close as I can figure) ID as referring to a database is the only was you can do this for HQ-HZ Dandenong vans and HJ-HZ Pagewood vans.

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
Blocker Offline
#1039 Posted : Wednesday, 10 March 2010 11:13:22 PM(UTC)
Blocker

Rank: Member

Reputation:

Groups: Registered
Joined: 11/11/2009(UTC)
Posts: 112
Byron youre doing the work that many have wished Holden did, by keeping and maintaining a historical record... Thank you!

[url="http://www.mysandman.com.au/"][/url]
Back to top
HK1837 Offline
#1040 Posted : Thursday, 11 March 2010 3:17:18 AM(UTC)
HK1837

Rank: Veteran

Reputation:

Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,714

Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 509 time(s) in 485 post(s)
Your site is looking good too. Ill wait till I have written some more of the book before I comment as I am finding heaps more stuff as I go. Im also finding there are about 25 documents I need to chase down, and not just documents but revisions of documents.

_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
Back to top
Users browsing this topic
Guest (8)
61 Pages«<5051525354>»
Forum Jump  
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.

Powered by YAF | YAF © 2003-2024, Yet Another Forum.NET
This page was generated in 0.111 seconds.