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#61 Posted : Monday, 11 January 2010 12:16:14 AM(UTC)
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Oh cheers mate :)
cant believe i thought it was a sandman after buying it from a melb guy for 2 grand. he advertised it as a hz panelvan. i have won lotto lol.


















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#62 Posted : Monday, 11 January 2010 1:55:21 AM(UTC)
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ha ha
see whats goin on with toilets seats on this site andrew. never would have thought of it but if ya send me pics and price i may well consider it :)

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#63 Posted : Monday, 11 January 2010 10:05:57 AM(UTC)
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Good score Karl... nice colour combo as well... Panama green with Buckskin trim... hardest part will be working out which colour stripes to go with...
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#64 Posted : Monday, 11 January 2010 10:11:04 AM(UTC)
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Because it is Panama Green (HZ) doesnt that make it DX5 bright blue/blue green/dark blue decal? Or is the trim code a consideration as well for decals?

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#65 Posted : Monday, 11 January 2010 5:59:12 PM(UTC)
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Panama green is DX5 for the later stuff. Not 100% sure about a really early HZ like this one.

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#66 Posted : Monday, 11 January 2010 6:40:55 PM(UTC)
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Go DY6, just for that unique look.

Good luck with the whole resto, please post your progress photos.




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#67 Posted : Monday, 11 January 2010 8:52:43 PM(UTC)
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hey guys
Yeah cheers sean dont come across gold like that very often.
now decal codes how do ya find that out? by the time i get to the end of the resto im sure to find out.
from you experience guys whats the total cost on average for resto to oringinal? its in not bad nick, just a little bit of rust about mainly in the sils. and the usual places.

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#68 Posted : Monday, 11 January 2010 10:52:33 PM(UTC)
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If it was me id budget on $25k to do it properly with you doing a lot of the "putting it back together" work. It will be significantly cheaper if you dont try to do it 100% original.

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#69 Posted : Tuesday, 12 January 2010 3:39:57 AM(UTC)
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Should look something like this when restored, Panama green HZ with early DX5 plum / purple / dark blue decals.
Personally I think these look really good on the green but I havent seen an old original photo of any Panama green HZs let alone one with early DX5 decals on it.

Here is a photo of a Supermint green HZ with correct DY4 decals... while they stand out... to me they dont go as well with the green... would be good to see a Panama green HZ with the later DX5 bright blue / blue green / dark blue decals to compare against.

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#70 Posted : Tuesday, 12 January 2010 7:57:36 AM(UTC)
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Yeah saw these pic around the web (fantastic piece of machine) and 1st thought i had for the panama green was the mint one. which not so much to my taste so im glad its turn out to be the lighter green. (the actual colour). As for the decals i agree with what ya saying there sean.

Byron dont know if ya got my email? but anyone help is great on the topic of the possibility that the head is of a 308 and the block a 253. now the reason i asked is due to the fact that 2 barrel was the original on the 253 and 4 barrel for the 308. but having the 4 barrel fits perfect to the head but the block as 253
is that posible??? Maybe thats why the id numbers dont match. is this particalar Sandman suppose to be a 253 or 308 Byron???

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#71 Posted : Tuesday, 12 January 2010 11:19:56 AM(UTC)
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L32 and M20 means yours is originally a 253 4sp Karl.

Bargains are still around if you know what you are looking at and the owner doesnt know what he has...
My HX Sandman van was advertised as a V8 Holden P/Van, I had to drive to Tamworth to pick it up but only forked out seven greenies for it. Been forking out yellow and green bills ever since though.
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#72 Posted : Tuesday, 12 January 2010 6:26:06 PM(UTC)
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Yeah saw these pic around the web (fantastic piece of machine) and 1st thought i had for the panama green was the mint one. which not so much to my taste so im glad its turn out to be the lighter green. (the actual colour). As for the decals i agree with what ya saying there sean.

Byron dont know if ya got my email? but anyone help is great on the topic of the possibility that the head is of a 308 and the block a 253. now the reason i asked is due to the fact that 2 barrel was the original on the 253 and 4 barrel for the 308. but having the 4 barrel fits perfect to the head but the block as 253
is that posible??? Maybe thats why the id numbers dont match. is this particalar Sandman suppose to be a 253 or 308 Byron???

Cheers
Karl


253 and 308 blocks are identical externally, and the heads themselves are exactly the same. So a 308 manifold will bolt straight onto a 253 and its a common modification. GMH did this themselves with the 253 from WB onwards.

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#73 Posted : Tuesday, 12 January 2010 8:51:19 PM(UTC)
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Gentlemen on the subject of decals, can I please get a confirmation or correction on the following, specifically for HX models.

DY1 orange / bright blue / blue
DY2 orange / brown / dark brown


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#74 Posted : Tuesday, 12 January 2010 9:19:53 PM(UTC)
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Thanks guys
Keep ya posted through out the restoration :)
Cheers
Karl
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#75 Posted : Wednesday, 13 January 2010 3:14:55 AM(UTC)
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Andrew,

According to the HZ parts manual:

DY1 orange / brown / dark brown

DY2 orange / bright blue / blue

DX5 Plum/purple/Dark blue

DY3 Yellow/orange/red

DY4 Bright yellow/light orange/dark orange

Cant say for HX?
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#76 Posted : Wednesday, 13 January 2010 3:32:09 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for that.

HZ also had the following;
DY6 - dark blue/purple/plum.(but I dont have the part number). DL7 - Delete Stripes

I am led to believe that HX didnt have DY6, but I found a reference to it only for;
Aquaris - 17778-1914, Id like this to be confirmed or corrected.

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#77 Posted : Wednesday, 13 January 2010 4:37:14 AM(UTC)
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DY6 is not plum/purple/darkblue. Its purple/plum/dark blue. Same as HX DX5. But outer colours swapped. I have a NOS sample of the DY6. (has DY6 printed on the back.

To me it looks like DY6 replaced the DX5 which was HX and early HZ by the looks.
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#78 Posted : Wednesday, 13 January 2010 6:16:57 AM(UTC)
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Thanks for clearing that up. Is there any record of DY6 in HX series though?




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#79 Posted : Wednesday, 13 January 2010 6:38:53 AM(UTC)
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Not that i am aware of mate. Byron may know more. I dont think he had much info on the HX stripes at this stage. I think we will be all hanging for the book! =)
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#80 Posted : Wednesday, 13 January 2010 7:38:03 AM(UTC)
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My HZ parts manual (dated October 1977 so it must be an early HZ manual) shows DX5 as Plum/Purple/Dark blue.

There is no mention of DY6 or DL7. Not sure when the extra codes were added as I dont have any supplements. I understand that it wasnt until later in the HZ range that deleting was given a code as the colours were seen by many purchases as a bit dated.
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