Hoping that someone might be able to shed some light on the codes that I have found on HRs.

Some are three numbers, others a letter in the insert, saw D the other day.

I have spoken to several people about them but still no one has cracked it. Anyone here managed to yet?

Warren

That would be fine but HR do not have insert they have top and body colour only, not insert. Last to use insert for paint code is FB.

Also the trim combo number would reflect this if it was a paint code. Ie a Silver mink all over car would have 1150 ### on the trim line, a silver mink car with Ermine white roof would have 1240 ### on the trim line and a car with Grecian white roof would have 1205 ### on the trim line.

Warren

Warren. I have been told that the D stamped on a HR tag meant that the car was optioned to some degree.
This came up in a conversation to do with X2s and it was said that a X2 optioned cars should have that
D stamped on the tag as the X2 package was a option.
Like on this tag off a X2 HR.

Is this D in the bottom left corner in the same area that you have seen them.
I would be interested to see if any other X2 owners have the same D on there tags and to hear any other comments on this too.
Cheers Paul.

Warren

This might be left field but could part of it be something to do with post December 1967 HR commercials? Probably not, but it just occurred to me.

Byron

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Ok so from what has been said the D could be a option related thing but nobody is sure of that.
Here is another tag picture with the D on it for reference.

I do not want to steal the thread or anything but has anyone seen this before or got any ideas to the meaning of these letters.

Cheers Paul.

Found a D on the ID tag of a one owner (family) car that my Grandfather bought new. Odd colouring of green only, wheels & interior included. Built in Adelaide. I will post images when I work out how to do it. Drum front end, no booster. Looks like a Standard model with Special badges. Havent seen one the same in Melbourne.


Utility8

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Hi Warren, the car that I just mentioned was my Grandfathers until the mid 80s. My Father went to Adelaide to bring the car back as his father was unable to drive anymore. I now have the car. It is green only, no white paint.
My Father, now 83, retired from GM-H as a paint chemist in about 81. He had been with GM-H since the 50s. I will ask him about Dulux & when they came about. His memory is still sharp, so I will quiz him tomorrow.
May shed a little light.

Utility8

Hi Paul, I will plug away at the images today. Colour is also Finisterre Green code 585-8566. Thanks for the offer of image posting. Ive got a short attention span, if I struggle, youll get an email tonight.
Maybe the D was used to identify a specification change or feature for the particular vehicle. A reminder, if you will, for the production line crews? Or GM-H dealers? In my particular case, the car is all one colour, wheels included. I havent seen many at all painted this way. Mind you, it was a SA car.

Utility8

Hi John

We are still no closer on this D thing, Ive seen it on so many HD/HRs now.

The number you are calling the firewall ID is actually the chassis number. The NSW RTA call it the VIN/chassis just to confuse everybody. It should appear on your rego papers. Also it should have another letter after the A, probably on the other side of the pressed hump in the firewall. Its probably another A.

Dr Terry

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I do not think Dulux were around then I think they went by the name Balm back then.

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Talked with my father today about his work with GM-H. He was an industrial chemist working on paint back then.
He originally worked for BALM, (British Australian Lead Manufacturing), from 1946 until 1955. BALM was a paint manufacturer in that era. He then went to GM-H in 1955.
GM-H had the licence from Dupont for technology, manufacture & sales of Duco & Dulux products from about 1936 when the licence was established. Later, approximately 1955, is when Dulon (acrylic) came about.
Asking him about the D on the ID plate, he had no recollection, but did not think it was any reference to paint. Then he went on about paint.

As far as the paint codes on the ID Tag goes.
The first 3 digits, i.e. 585-####, refers to the paint product.
The 500 series, as with HR, is Dulon (acrylic).
The 200 series, possibly earlier Holdens?, is Duco.
The 300 series, is Dulux, possibly a house paint product?

The last 4 digits, i.e. ###-8566, refers to the paint colour.
585-8566, as mentioned by hq-ss earlier in the thread, is Dulon Finisterre Green.

Back in the day, apparently the paint code used on the ID Tags was to reference the bulk paint used at the factory. To get an amount for repairs etc., the actual code was different. Obviously able to cross reference. Costing, bulk versus small lots, was believed to be the reasoning behind it.

Not a lick to do with D issue, but info is info.




Utility8

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