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make all young p platers drive 327 monaros, they will be ok, cos they dont go real fast anyway hahahaha
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I get my Ps next year and dont mind the NO V8 laws or modified 6. The laws there for a reason even though its not completly correct. Ive got HG kingy 186 4speed, HT Prem 186 powerglide (Club plates) HT Ute 179 Trimatic, and a Mazda Bravo tonner. These are cars that Im driving on my Ls that Ill be using as a form of transport. Plans to have the HT ute on teh road very soon. I do have one question though when they say no modifications can you use headers, 186S carbi manifold? Stuff that came from factory as an option? Can I have somthing like a twin exhaust coming from the headers? What exactly classifys as a modification these days? Cheers Stephen Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint. [email protected]http://gallery.oldholden.com/69HT_MUNRO/Edited by user Thursday, 16 April 2009 9:28:30 AM(UTC)
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Like I said earlier. Just relax, focus and drive like it is a job, but a job you can enjoy if it is part of your hobby.
Cars should not be treated the same as a lounge room with suede cushions, plush carpet, climate control, 5.1 sound, screen in front of your eyes (GPS planted in middle of vision field), breakfast, lunch, dinner, talk on the phone, SMS, do your hair and makeup, toys on the dash, etc.
It is a job to drive from A to B, be serious and at the same time relax while being alert. Relax doesnt mean fall asleep, dopey, void brained, it means dont be angry, agro, tense, impatient. |
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make all young p platers drive 327 monaros, they will be ok, cos they dont go real fast anyway hahahaha
Is there enough 327 monaros I wouldnt mind cruising in one of them:) lol Cheers Stephen Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint. [email protected]http://gallery.oldholden.com/69HT_MUNRO/ |
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As much as I do think its a good idea for no v8 p-plating at the end of the day v8s dont kill people, people kill people. Drive a car like an idiot and youre going to come unstuck.
The car I had for the first 3 years of my licence was a 2.7 gutless 88 navara and i had my fair share of close calls. All learners should take a defensive driving course before they get thier ps. Lack of experience is the big killer, its easy for slack parents to fudge log books.
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I drove my HX GTS 4, 308 mildly worked, trimatic on P plates for two years. Went like s*** off a stick. I never had an accident in it or caused one. Just need to drive like you actually care if you take a life. Its noy just the accident you have to get past, its the psychological effects later as well. I think that P platers should be allowed to have a V8. Drivea smaller vehicle for a year and then mov up to something better. Make them do defensive driving courses, s*** make us all do them.
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Originally posted by we wreck 81837s only
make all young p platers drive 327 monaros, they will be ok, cos they dont go real fast anyway hahahaha
Is there enough 327 monaros I wouldnt mind cruising in one of them:) lol
Cheers Stephen
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there is 1000s of them around...especially 327 cars, heaps mate
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i are a beter driver then petre brock and sumtims even i nerley hav a acserdant !
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I think that the law in NSW states that a P plater cant drive a 253 kingy or even a turbo diesel ute yet said P plater can drive a 300 horsepower 6 pack Charger.
I have never had P plates ....Bliss
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On my Ps I had a HQ Deville (308 T-bar) and a HQ Belmont van with a triple carbed 202 that revved like you wouldnt believe, plus later on a HZ 308 M21 Kingswood sedan. All made lots of noise but none of them would have come close to a VN V6 in a drag race, which is why I think the laws are a bit silly, good intentions aside. Right now a young fella can have his choice of VN-VS Commodores sitting in peoples front yards for less than $500 and get it regoed as is. Compare this car to a well maintained 253 HZ Sandman ute. I know which one hes more likely to wrap around a power pole.
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Originally posted by alchupanibre
what is the fuel consumption like on a VB blue 253 and 308?
VBs actually have red V8s not blue. And remember the way power figures were quoted changed at the end of the red engines. A blue 308 is more powerful than the last of the red ones it replaced yet it is quoted lower. I think the easlier were SAE and the later DIN. Later figures include exhaust, engine driven accessories, air cleaner etc. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
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Reason is, its much easier to single out ALL v8s, rather than making an exception list on the low powered v8s, because 95% of them have enough balls and will cause a higher chance of an accident.
But with the newer and most decent powered sixes, they all have traction control, and stability control which I guess plays a big part in if a car will have an accident or not. Im not saying they wont, but a 1995 VR 5 litre wont have any form of traction control, compared to say a VZ Commodore V6. Yeah it has a little more power than the old 5 litre, however its a much more safer car to drive on the road.
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make all young p platers drive 327 monaros, they will be ok, cos they dont go real fast anyway hahahaha
Yeah cause there is sod all out there and there worth shed loads so be to scared to drive them, like your style there Living the Dream |
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i are a beter driver then petre brock and sumtims even i nerley hav a acserdant !
Colby dont take this to heart but wish you was the one to hit the tree, might have knocked some sense into you,( a legend was lost dont use his name u muppet) Living the Dream |
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The whole V8 & turbo thing thing for P platers is a bit of a joke.
With all of the best intentions, that is to stop inexperienced drivers, driving high-powered cars, it has not been put into practice very well at all. Typical Government bureaucracy gone mad.
What should have happened is to find someone with a brain in the RTA (very difficult to begin with) & then talk to those who know (like insurance companies) to determine which car & driver combination are the worst offenders. They would have accurate figures going back decades. But no, they probably just had a clerk go thru the Red Book & tick off anything with a V8 or a turbocharger, rather than do any meaningful research.
I can see what they were attempting, but like anything to do with our esteemed NSW State Government, finding anyone with an IQ number larger than their shoe size has proved to be too difficult.
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Went through all this recently My son on P plates drives an VY SS V8 ute and we had to insure it in his name. Both the insurer and I each did the power to weight calc to vicroads specs and we both came up with the same figure. He is legally able to drive it, and its now insured. Next I went to the local cop station to confirm and went through the calcs with a cop that at first said it was illegal, but after doing the sums agreed with me that its perfectly legal.
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Went through all this recently My son on P plates drives an VY SS V8 ute and we had to insure it in his name. Both the insurer and I each did the power to weight calc to vicroads specs and we both came up with the same figure. He is legally able to drive it, and its now insured. Next I went to the local cop station to confirm and went through the calcs with a cop that at first said it was illegal, but after doing the sums agreed with me that its perfectly legal.
This is why my comments re: the NSW RTA, there are no power to weight calculations in NSW. If it has a V8, a supercharger or a turbocharger its out, full stop. I understand that the little Diahatsu Copen (700cc with turbo) is on the banned list. 50kW of pure unbridled fury, is banned simply because it has forced induction. Dr Terry |
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give them all all fiat bambino`s lol.
My p plater car was a FC holden with the grey motor, now thats good beginer power , slow on take off and 80mph (128kph)top speed.
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I agree fully with Dr Terry about the NSW system. Things like the Copen are banned but a P plater can legally drive an XU1 or 6 pack Charger if they can afford one that is.
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im 18 i just got my ps and driven a ba xr6 manual it will bet a vr cubby but that dont matter i bought the car coz i liked the car not coz of its power have a look at this link http://www.drive.com.au/...rticleID=61540&pg=1&vf=0
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