Are the hk gts monaro bonnets different from say a hk sedan?????
Meaning the gts badge holes????
I know the hg ht are different from the scoops.

HK are the same basically, except for badge and accessory holes.

HT Monaro bonnets are also the same as the rest of the range, just like HK range. HT has H-O-L-D-E-N holes across the nose. GTS have flutes.

HG same story, ie basically the same bonnet across the range, GTS has flutes. HG have slots on teh passengers side for the badge.

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If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?

Itd just be a HK bonnet with holes for a badge, no such thing as a HK GTS bonnet.

Not sure what you mean with grille badges. HK Monaro grille HOLDEN badge is the same badge as Belmont and Kingswood sedan, wagon and ute. Only GTS, Premier and Brougham are different with GTS being different to Premier/Brougham.

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If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?

There are two grilles in HK (variations of each with paint). Two headlights and 4 headlights.

There are three HOLDEN badges in these grills, one for 4 headlight, ie Premier Brougham, and two badges for two headlights, ie Belmont, Kingswood and Monaro. The two badges for Belmont, Kingswood and Monaro are, one for GTS and one for all others.

Warren

I only say this, is, that i got picked up when i went to sell the HOLDEN badge that came from my gts hk.... I lined up the pins and it was different that the other HOLDEN badge.
I always thought the grille in the gts had a different placement for that badge.
I may be wrong, and wish i still had the photos of the badges side by side.

All Rare Spares badges have the pins in the wrong place.

If you have got a HK bonnet that is factory and is a GTS one ,
it will be different to Any other HK bonnet, as it will have the holes in the right place for the GTS badge ,

that is of course you use a GMH GTS badge.

Thanks for that, i did think the gts badge holes where different from a sedan ect.

I think we need to clarrify things a bit better.

Firstly, on the grill badge, the 4 headlight grill badge and the GTS grill badge are the same raised edge with paint fill. The 4 headlight is white fill and has unique pin location and the GTS badge has red paint fill and same pin location as the flat HOLDEN badge.

The reason for the white badge having different pin location is probably to ensure that this was the only badge fitted to 4 headlight grills during pre production process. But this is just one theory.

The different pin location came to light when red fill badges became rare, people tried to repaint white ones, only to find they did not fit the 2 headlight grill.

On the bonnets, hole location does not make parts different, otherwise a V8 guard would be different to a 186 guard and a 161 guard would be different again. Same with Belmont, Kingswood and Monaro guards as the holes for these badges were different. You can take any HK bonnet and drill the holes for the GTS badge. (on the production line all the above are diferent, as the holes are punched before painting, so a Kingswood guard must go on a Kingswood, and if it is a V8 Kingswood it is a different guard to a 161 Kingswood)

HT and HG bonnets have different undersides, which can help identify manufacture period.

Warren

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Originally posted by charlie
Thanks warren
saying that, in your opinion, would you say, an origanal gts monaro bonnet, is far beter to have than say a belmont one thats been drilled to fit a gts badge?????
Or it wouldnt matter couse no one could tell???

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HI charlie.

As long as the badge holes were neatly drilled & then properly painted it wouldnt really matter much.

If youre comparing a GTS bonnet to a Belmont bonnet there is also the matter of the stainless moulding on the leading edge, which is not fitted to Belmonts. It is fitted to all others though. At the factory the moulding clips are retained by little T-headed studs which are welded on prior to painting. These are much better than aftermarket pop-rivets or screws, which never seem to be fitted in the correct position.

Dr Terry

Cheers
Only reason i am enquiring as i have the hk bonnet on my hg, soon i will be putting this on, but have to paint it first, then i have the bonnet, which started its life on a hk gts 186s monaro,sitting around doing nothing, its painted in the comaro gold you see in my photo.
But knowing where its from and having owned it for 19 years i would rather it to some one looking for the real deal.
cheers again for the help.