A couple of months ago i posted a topic stating i had seen a prototype holden in Lansfield.
This car has now come to light at verious car shows and on Holden forums.
What do people have to say regarding this car?

Hi thanks for the reply. I think it has been seen by people as it was apparently at hanging rock on display a few weks ago. I saw it a few months ago in Lansfield Victoria, well im sure it was the same car.
What do you mean by something secret about it? Is there something unusual about the car?
Did you get to see it at Hanging rock?

It is proclaimed by the owner it is "prototype no2" but 4 experts that I know of(with credentials)claim it is a fraud.

I am not going to get into a bun fight like some on other sites but for your interest the body is a 1950 shell to start with and anyone that has a good knowledge of 48/215s that see the car will pick that up. Re badged cars are not a new thing.

Sorry, two more questions if i may.
How come this guy has the registration papers to prove what the car is and ll this other info if its a rebadged car as you say. What badges are you talking about?

Thanks mate, i dont want to get into an argument over this and it seems by the way you are comming across you are getting a little hot under the collar so to speak.
I dont understand how you can voice an opinion on a car if you have not seen it, have you?
What about the paper work he has?
This will be my last post on this subject as its clear there are some people that are not happy about this post or the owner of the car in question. My opinion is its genuine and there are people that are just ready to s*** cann it, i think they have other motives.

I just dont want to start arguments with people over this.
I am happy to hear what people have to say but if they havent seen it and have no proof its a fake how can it be?
I never said anything about GMH letters , im talking about rego papers. You cant fake registration papers or registration plates, engine numbers or id tags.
I hope it is number 2 also but until there is proof it is not then we must presume it is the genuine car.
If its not in original condition so be it but how many cars from that ear are?
Happy to see the debate go on.

Leroy has put made his point quite well.

Im in the same situation as he his. Ive not seen the car, but I understand others who are able to verify it, have not been allowed near it.

To call it a fake or a fraud is unfair in the extreme.

If you read between the lines on the various forums, it would appear that this car contains remnants of one of the prototypes. These parts are hand made & nearly impossible to replicate, so there must be some element of truth to the story. What about the cars history, is it a re-body ?

But, & its a big but, how much of the original prototype remains ? If the car is just a 1950 FX production body, with a few prototype parts bolted to it, does that make it the real deal ? The papers themselves are probably the real papers belonging to the original car. This adds to the mystery.

On many forums, this had resulted in a huge bun fight with all the usual name calling & insults flying. I dont think that we need that here.

I dont care if the car is real or not, but I do not like to see something misrepresented. I would love to see some of the original prototype panels though.

Healthy debate & discussion is what we are here for, not naming & blaming things we havent even seen.

Dr Terry

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Originally posted by fcute
I agree with what you say in your post Dr Terry.

Two points i would like to make:

1. Would you let people you didnt know into your home or garage to go over your car?
2. One asks himself where did they get these parts and papers from if the car is not original?
Theres too much to be coincidence. Any ideas??

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Two good points fcute.

1. I would not let just anybody into my home to go over my car, but I would let some of the more notable names on this site or well other known Holden-philes do so.

2. As I said, there is some truth to this car. Once upon a time, long ago, this was a real prototype & was really registered as such. What we are discussing is how much remains. Is it a real prototype bodyshell will all parts still intact ? Most likely no ! How many original parts are there? Only an independent expert on the subject can tell ! That being the case, we have to wait until that is done, or the owner is happy to show all the evidence of it being a complete prototype.

Dr Terry

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Nice photos mate, did you take them or did these come off another site?