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these photos were posted on oldholden by the owner, they were taken at hanging rock, i was there and seen the car in person and took my own pics but i havent loaded them into the puter yet
if the owner of this car has a problem with me posting these pics then let me know and ill remove them and post my own
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surely if it was one of the prototyps it would not have tags??????????
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surely if it was one of the prototyps it would not have tags??????????
AFIAK all the early prototypes had a body ID plate. The number one car certainly does. Anyway, as discussed on the forums many times, ID plates DO NOT necessarily identify the car, the plates can be moved from one car to another. Dr Terry _______________________________________ The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter. |
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Your correct Doc, but this car does have an American I.D plate but stamped with Aust stamping, not like number one which has the American stamping. I have seen the car and many things are wrong and I think you hit the nail on the head when you said it may have started off as a proto type but over the years has many add on changes. I am retired from GM and have seen and heard many strange things even happening to new cars.
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Are there not the two designers signatures supposed to be signed on the fuel tank, this is what I have heard. Dont ask me the names of them because I cant say who they were, but Im sure there was something about the first three prototypes having signatures on the fuel tanks Edited by user Sunday, 28 February 2010 8:52:25 AM(UTC)
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Ok ive given the last post much thought. So they have signatures on the fuel tanks?? Im not sure if they did but that would identify the car. But what if the petrol tank has been changed over the last 60 years???? What if they tested different fuel tanks while the car was being tested?
I dont believe anyone can say for sure what is original and what is not on this car especially if this is a prototype. Thats what they were built for, testing and changing parts.
I dont think the owner should change a thing on it or touch it for that matter.
What do youthink Doc??
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On the topic of rebodied cars, does that mean the number one production holden that gmh has and call number 1 is a fake?? It has body number 6 stamped on it and apparently that car was smashed and rebodied in 1948 by gmh according to Don Loffler in his book.
That means its not the real deal so why do they still call it number 1 production car? If true its just a rebodied 1948 holden in my opinion.
Number 1 prototype was also restored and alot of it replaced so whats the story there?
The guy that has number two has a car thats running and unrestored so his car should be classed as more original than all of them even if its been changed over the years.
What do you think Doc?
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Havent posters already said that number 2 is rebodied? If so neither is original so what does it matter which is "more" original. Its either original or not. Yes or no. No maybes, no grey area, no % original.
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Where is the proof its been rebodied?
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There is a Grey area with prototypes.
They were being constantly changed by the factory "GMH" they were test and styling cars so anything that gmh added on them would be classed as original. Think we are getting away from the issue here.
Is it still number 2 if it has been changed in areas?
I think yes, as thats what the car sarted off as and thats its identity.
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fcute, it is about time you let this go. You look more and more like a fool the more you go on about it. Cars get rebodied all the time, that is life. I rebodied a HK 327 once after I smashed it into a tree. Cut out the fire wall number, welded it into the new body, ditched the ID tags and put on the ones from the crashed car, slotted in the engine from the crashed car and put the books from the crashed car in the new cars glove box. Now, if anyone but an expert looks at my car, they will think it is the real deal, it is all there, all matching numbers with books. Is it the original car?? hell no. But it sure looks like it, and I have the documentation to prove that it is real. But it aint. You obviously have an interest in this car to be crapping on about it for so long. At the end of the day, who cares what has been done to it, by the sounds of it, it it the same as my car, a rebody with the engine and tags being swapped over. But again, who cares?? people here have given their opinions, yet you seem unhappy with that. Its probably about time to move on. Edited by user Sunday, 28 February 2010 11:38:21 PM(UTC)
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We are having an open discussion about the car. If you dont want to take part or insist on starting a bitch fight no need to post on here. Your the one who looks silly and maybe someone should report you to the stolen car squad for re-birthing that Monaro. Im sure someone paid good money for that car and thinks its genuine and no matter how long ago you sold it you can still be charged. Your details are available on this forum so you wont be hard to find. Edited by user Monday, 1 March 2010 12:31:35 AM(UTC)
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We are having an open discussion about the car.
If you dont want to take part or insist on starting a bitch fight no need to post on here.
Your the one who looks silly and maybe someone should report you to the stolen car squad for re-birthing that Monaro.
Im sure someone paid good money for that car and thinks its genuine and no matter how long ago you sold it you can still be charged.
Your details are available on this forum so you wont be hard to find.
An open discussion in which you will not accept what people are telling you about the car. Sold it, who said I sold it?? The "stolen car squad" eh?? Sure give them a call. IF they can pick that my car has been rebirthed. I will GIVE it to you. I would guess that there might be 10 people in all of OZ that would know enough about Monaros to be able to pick why mine is not quite right. While they are at my place, I will show them the rego of the FX in question and see what the owner thinks of the "stolen car squad" rocking up to go over his car. Cos I know which one they will be taking away on the back of a tray top. I will give ya a hint... It wont be mine. But for sure, keep crapping on about this FX and how it can not be a rebodied car when all the evidence kinda points to the fact that it is. It is just something you are going to have to deal with. Cheers. Oh and I will stay by the phone in case the stolen car squad calls.
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So your the owner of the FX in Question?
Tell us all a little about it.
You are the one who posted the post that said you re-birthed the monaro so there is the evidence from the horses mouth, you have given a complete confession. lol.
Now back to the FX.
So do you own it or not?
Seriously, if the car is yours just say so, there are a few of us interested. I have nothing to worry about as i dont own an FX.
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Oh, and yes i do have an interest in the car as do many other people.
Whats wrong with that?
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Oh, and what evidence points to a rebirth??????
Show us.
Just thought i would throw that in. He he.
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Cant wait till Frank gets back from the movies.
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This car seems to have a lot of interest, and by this some are trying to generate more interest.
As with all "special" cars a full inspection is sometimes required to determine if the owners claims are correct or not.
But one must ask "why do people not believe the car is what it is being rpresented as?"
The fact that the car has tags and rego papers really means nothing as these are easily reproduced, but once again, do some believe this is the fact?
The other thing is cars do have things changed, often without the knowledge of the owner, ie smash repairs. It is quite common for panel shops to re body a car even for what we would consider a minor. It is about cost.
One would hope that the car is gnuine and hte owner has a nice piece of Holden history.
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OHH Klompy you makin me larf ,that post cracked me up so good cheeras-keeo
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