Holden shape! HT was raced as built by GMH.

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There is only 1 phase 4 left(red with a big "1"on the side))and he wont be doing that.The rest were RPO's

Jim in Adelaide..

The current format is still selling cars at the market place but for how much longer?
Thank god the format has gotten so safe that David Coulthard walked away from what definetely is a fatal crash situation.
Keep the safety aspect modified, but why does it have to be a 5000cc formula. I just think some aspects of the great race be returned to stock eg driveline, suspension and tyres. In short, they should share more of the dna with what we can buy at the market place keeping it more "real".

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Originally posted by mmazz30
Yes i know XU2 was for LH but was just stating the obvious as most talk for XU2 was for the proto XU1 V8

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Who do you mean by 'most' ? The more the term 'XU2' is wrongly used, the more it gets used wrongly.

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Originally posted by mmazz30
I was at the track and all week it was refered to as an XA phase 4 (even though it wasn't)

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Just because an un-informed commentator wrongly calls it a 'Phase 4' doesn't make it a Phase 4. Besides if you put a Phase 4 beside a normal XA GT, many wouldn't pick the difference anyway.

Dr Terry

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When calculating a car restoration budget, be as accurate as you can & then double the final figure. It will be closer to the truth.

I feel sorry for the young aussies that don't know any better about the real holden ford racing days.
It was something that got in your blood a real fair dinkum aussie argument could erupted and it was great!
Sorry to say i can't watch bathurst now days it sickens me to death.
No one knows how a XR8 would go against a SS at Bathurst nowadays. what a sorry state of affairs.
O Look out for the politically correct police! pff in my day they would just be punched out end of story.

Nice logic 70htprem. I'm smiling as I type this.

For Dr. Terry, if you suggest that 1972 was the last 'proper' Holden to win (LJ XU-1) then perhaps the last LH L34 (don't know the year sadly) could also be considered as it was last example to be a proper Holden. That is a proper regular production body shell (not a GMP&A race item), proper Holden factory fitted drive line - engine, transmission, rear axle (not a full floater) and brakes. I won't mention things like carby, exhaust, tyres, etc as these were not on the 1972 car you mention either. Perhaps the 1968 Monaro of Bruce McPhee is the first and last proper Holden Bathurst winner as it was a regular production line car sold by a regular dealer for cash that was not pulled apart-put back together again and did not have a roll cage in it. Bruce certainly did a few little demon tweaks but the car was a proper car in every way. Great topic here.

Nice one git. So true it isn't funny.

DA has a good point about Bruce McPhee's car, as he was a true privateer. The L34 was also the last race Holden built from a production car with a ADR plate attached. This is probably the only way to tell if the car started as a production line car or just a shell. A shell is always supplied with a body ID plate, but not an ADR Compliance plate. The Group C & Group A Commodores were all built from bare shells.

The only part of the driveline not genuine factory in the later Group C cars would be the gearbox (Super T10). The had to run factory 308 V8s & Holden rear axles. The VL Walkinshaws didn't use a factory gearbox either, they also had the Getrag at the track not the T5.

Dr Terry

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It was a great win, but what with team Vodafone switching to red, I think it is fair to say that Holden started the day with a lot more cars that were capable of winning, so the odds were in their favour.
Just looking at the top 10 grid positions before it started, you had to go with a Holden win

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It was a great win, but what with team Vodafone switching to red, I think it is fair to say that Holden started the day with a lot more cars that were capable of winning, so the odds were in their favour.
Just looking at the top 10 grid positions before it started, you had to go with a Holden win
Go back to the dark days of the Group A farce in 1990.Sieras should never have been allowed to race in the AUSTRALIAN Touring Car Championship. Bathurst that year had 8 Sieras & 2 Commodores filling the the first 10 of the start grid.

And as Allan Grice said of that win "too much boost, not enough sieras" A historic against the odds win was the result. Bottom line is that it only takes one car to win. At bathurst 2010, once again, the windsor was the little engine that couldn't.


One pair of hands working does more than a thousand pairs praying.

Did the HDT HT 1837's actually run on production tyres?

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