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#1 Posted : Monday, 25 October 2010 1:10:04 AM(UTC)
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Just went down to purchase some brake pads for my HQ, and told the guy at the counter I'm after brake pads for a 74 Statesman, even had an old pad with me to match it up. (just in case) He said that looks like it was fitted to a Girlock caliper. I said yes - he looked on the computer and said only HX were fitted with these, the pad number is DB 1004.

I know for a fact my brakes have never been up-graded to anything other than what is fitted there. This is just another thing that I'm wondering about with these Export models. Anyone else have an HQ Export or Local market with cast iron Girlock calipers?
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#2 Posted : Monday, 25 October 2010 1:24:08 AM(UTC)
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My 11/74 HJ Premier has Girlocks, maybe they were used on some later HQ's?

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#3 Posted : Monday, 25 October 2010 1:39:52 AM(UTC)
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hq also got girlocks as well as pbr but generally only on commercials

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#4 Posted : Monday, 25 October 2010 3:27:32 PM(UTC)
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hq also got girlocks as well as pbr but generally only on commercials

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Greg, were these Girlocks the Cast Iron or Aluminium calipers in HQ Commerials?
Looking at the Bendix webpage, the bloke at the Brake parts is right. Bendix show pads for Girlock Cast Iron caliper only fitted to HX, and Girlock Aluminium was fitted to HJ on. PBR is not of my concern.
Anyway thanks guys.
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#5 Posted : Monday, 25 October 2010 3:54:35 PM(UTC)
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Ozchevy, other way around I think ie cast iron Girlock in HJ, alloy in HX/Z.

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#6 Posted : Monday, 25 October 2010 4:12:17 PM(UTC)
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WHY are girlock better?might have to get some.

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#7 Posted : Monday, 25 October 2010 8:19:30 PM(UTC)
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cast iron girlock was on hq hj.alloy was on hx hz and wb but wb had the brake hose in a different spot..

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#8 Posted : Tuesday, 26 October 2010 12:31:18 AM(UTC)
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http://www.bendix.com.au...el=Holden&variant=&part=

Only mentions HX as Cast Iron Girlock caliper, but looks like Aluminium Girlock may use the same pads, but it doesn't actually state HQ-HJ if it's Cast Iron or Aluminium.
So - were Girlock Cast Iron calipers fitted to local market HQ's?
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, 26 October 2010 12:31:58 AM(UTC)
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Yes, see Greg's above post.

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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 26 October 2010 12:38:53 AM(UTC)
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Ok thanks, but Greg also states HX as alloy Girlock, when in fact both Cast iron and Aluminium were used.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 26 October 2010 11:36:45 PM(UTC)
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i have only seen cast iron girlocks on commercial hx..

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#12 Posted : Wednesday, 27 October 2010 12:54:58 AM(UTC)
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It's all very confusing because Girlock was known as Girling in the early 70s. I'm not quite sure of the exact changeover date.

To my knowledge there are 4 main different caliper types, more, if you count the WB style hose change & the updates made to some of the calipers along the way.

The 4 types are:
1. HQ/J/early HX PBR cast iron (DB6 pads)
2. Late HQ/J/early HX Girling/Girlock cast iron (DB1004 pads)
3. Late HX/Z PBR alloy (DB1029 pads)
4. Late HX/Z/WB Girlock alloy (DB1023 pads)

The confusing part is that the PBR alloy caliper still has a large cast iron bracket, but the head is aluminium alloy. The chassis break for early & late HX is when the prefix went from AHX to BHX. This was also when the larger brake m/cyl & 2-pin differential pressure switch were introduced.

I agree with Greg that for some reason you seem to see most cast iron Girlocks fitted to commercials & wagons. Theoretically with their larger pad area they would be better than the PBR cast iron type.

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#13 Posted : Wednesday, 27 October 2010 4:49:20 AM(UTC)
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Great info

Thanks Terry.
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 27 October 2010 9:19:10 PM(UTC)
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terry,technically there is 5 different calipers..in the hq hj the pbr is all cast iron and in the hx the pbr is what you describe as cast and alloy..its very similar to lx/uc torana but instead of having torana cast on it it has holden cast on it..

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#15 Posted : Wednesday, 27 October 2010 9:21:20 PM(UTC)
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quote:
sorry i just reread your post and you included the pbr...silly me..


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#16 Posted : Thursday, 28 October 2010 3:22:56 AM(UTC)
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My 7/74 HQ has factory cast iron Girlocks too.

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