I've got two wrecks. An HK which is just a stripped rolling shell with hanging panels, too good to cut up and an HT in Phoenecian Turqoise over Sandalwood. The HT is very rough, no running gear, semi complete roller. I've just put a deposit on an HT white over black complete with running gear and power steering and seats. Only partially stripped.

I've never seen production figures for Broughams but I always reckon there were more HK's, then the numbers declined from there. The Fairlane I believe well outsold the Brougham and by the time the HG came out, well, everyone was probably holding off for the new long wheelbase Statesman. I reckon HG Brougham numbers would be very low.

How do I contact you by email? I'll send you some pics of a magnificent beast that won best HKTG at the recent GM day we just had here.

The best way to estimate how many would be find Sydney and Adelaide cars that actually nubered them. Once you have that info it would be quite easy to estimate the actual numbers.

Yes the Fairlane outsold the Brougham, but the Fairlane customcame with 200 six, 3 speed manual with drum brakes. The Brougham was up against the Fairlane 500, the Premier was against the Fairlane custom.

The HR Premier was more luxurious than an ZA Fairlane custom, as the Premier had auto and bucket seats. So using Fairlane figures to compare with Brougham would be unrealistic, you need Fairlane 500 figures.

The HK Premier had to be down graded to compete with the Fairlane.

When the Statesman arrived, it idid not take Holden long to realise thatthe Statesman should be a luxury car and not an entry lvel car.

Warren

You just have to look at cars that still exist and record the numbers. Maybe write to all the appropriate clubs and ask them for the VIN and body ID plate details of all Broughams from Sydney and Adelaide.

That is one of the things that the Monaro registered did during its infancy. From there cars were "taged" at every possible show, wreckers cars for sale etc.

It was from this these figures we proved the Holden figure of around 9000 HK Monaros was wrong because Adelade and Sydney made that many, so Norm Darwin's 15000 was right.

No there are no accessable Holden production figures for Broughams.

Warren

That would be excellent... it is the best lead yet.
How would people feel about a Brougham register?
No details, but a list of build numbers still in existance.
GJ2 38540, TH6 31259, and one other (out in a shed 1/2 hour away) are still on the planet.

let me know what you think
Brian

So we are well under 20k for the three models then.
One of the reasons it rates in the book of lemons was for the dismal head to head record with Ford in it's target market.
Thanks for that We Wreck

Very interesting figures. Well done!

Yep, they'll be a rare bird. Think of how many were molested for V8 drivelines!Still reckon the HG version would be very rare. You hardly ever see a tidy original one, here in Adelaide anyway.

oops, i have made an unusual error in my previous earlier posting, the ZC was around 12, 750 cars, and the ZD was arounf 12,500 units, i was thinking wishfully by adding 10,000 to each build number.

leroy, i think modern motor went on slaes figures, not actual build numbers.

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Originally posted by we wreck 81837s only
oops, i have made an unusual error in my previous earlier posting, the ZC was around 12, 750 cars, and the ZD was arounf 12,500 units, i was thinking wishfully by adding 10,000 to each build number.

leroy, i think modern motor went on slaes figures, not actual build numbers.

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Well... you gotta talk up the fords... :-)
Driving one at the moment i'm sorry to say --well not really, it'been fantastic--
So if these are sales.... what happens to the ones that arent sold??
Just a thought

not hard simmo, just join photobucket, then copy and paste them and insert them in here, or do a search on here and there is a thread that explains how to do it somewhere in here