I have a HJ GTS coupe that I will be selling shortly. I'm trying to put a value on it ,because I have 2 people who have always said, If you sell it I want it.( one of these guys offered low $30k, but I feel it may be worth a little more. I need to give these people an option but of course I would like to get a good price for it as I'm only selling it to finance a new project. ( It will be hard to let it go)I have owned for 6-7 years.
Details as follows:
Warm 308, T400, 3.55 LSD 10 Bolt, 3000 converter. Car is mechanically very good. Car has rare factory steel sunroof. No rust , no dents, excellent paint, original GTS wheels, Black golf ball interior with red stripe. I have just reconditioned the internals of 2 rear windows and front left window.
I am just fitting carpet and new door trims by Winner products as old ones had speakers in the doors. Quality re-chromed correct rear bumper. Front left guard is not original, and does not have the painted black strip on the sill. Colour is a slightly different shade of Jamaica Lime.
I do not currenty have the ADR plate,I am trying to track it down at the moment. It has been registered in SA as a HQ since 1994- I have proof of this. In SA we do not have any roadworthy checks, this was common years ago to just swap plates when a car was defected. Car has been verified with the assistance of Byron and Ben Stewart as genuine. I have a verification letter from Holdens as well.
I will take some photos as soon as I put the door trims in.
Of course, if anyone wants to discuss a sale, please give me a call.
My mobile is 0419 818779
Cheers, Rick

Adam, yes, without the ADR tag it is of lesser value, however, it is what it is, its not a HQ LS or HX LE, despite not having the plate. The engine number, chassis number and Vin number ( the VIN number is not listed on the ADR plate)match what was built in Pagewood in December 1974.The ADR plate only lists the chassis number- which is of course stamped on the chassis and is clearly visible.
I understand the market has dipped, and you will only get what the market is willing to pay, but what do you think it could be worth with or without the ADR plate?
Thanks

If I was was offered 30k for a car with no ADR plate i would be taking it.

Thanks guys, I appreciate your input. I was finding it hard to judge, so thought it best to post my question here to get some some feedback from people who are in the know.

Rick
If The buyer is aware that it has HQ tags and is not what it appears i would be running to the bank with the 30k . Has it ever been over the pits ?? You might not be aware but it could be stolen and you and the purchaser might possibly loose . The offer you have seems to be from someone that possibly hasnt looked at the car or done checks on it . Good luck but i would be looking for a car that you could truly verify the history of
Regards Cain

The potential buyer knows that the correct plate is missing. In SA we do not have any inspections.When i first bought the car i was aware it was registered as a HQ. The car was fitted HQ plates.
The car has been registered this way since at least 1994, and is still currently registered this way. I have a rego sticker to prove this)
When I first bought the car I thought it a bit odd that a HQ could have everything that a HJ coupe, eg interior, correct seatbelts and mounting points, had so checked with the Rego department. All checked out OK, they were only interested in the engine number, they do not record VIN numbers.
After buying the car I went over everything which alerted me to the fact that it was in fact a HJ. i was fortunate that it still had the original chassis number and the engine number and firewall stamp.
The engine number on the certificate is still the same as the number as the original HJ engine number. ( the engine has been decked, so the engine number is not clearly legible)
I tried to track previous owners through our Reg department but no go.
I am very close to finding the guy who may have swapped the plates.
At a swap meet recently I met some people that new the car in the early 90's and are helping me track the owner who painted it back then.
As you can imagine, there is probably only one green HJ GTS coupe with a factory sunroof in SA.
Back then it was common place that if a vehicle was defected, you just swapped the plates and to keep it legal all you had to do was notify Rego of an engine number change- again we do not have inspections in SA unless you get defected and are told to front up to Regency Park. So effectively the car could be sold as a HQ ( as the plates state)
I have to say, it is still going to be hard to sell, as it is a fantastic car to drive ( has quality suspension including rear swaybar) and all the better with a sunroof. The only reason I'm looking at selling it as I'm buying a car from the US while the dollar is good and their market is down. looking forward to that big block , 4 speed!!

I am aware of the lack of inspections as such as I live in SA, I see that you purchased the car with the HQ plates on it originally . Did they have the HJ`s orig reg number available for you to check? or does it have the HJ`S reg and only a plate swap?
I personally would have been concerned about buying a HJ with HQ ID .
I hope you get the money your chasing as you are selling a HQ not a HJ coupe by the plates.

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Rick,at the end of the day its a re-tagged car no matter how you put it.It is worth what some one will pay for it,at least as you've said,your being up front with the info.Sometime this seems to cause more problems than its worth!!I still think its the best way though..lol
I am not a collector and therefore the tags wouldn't bother me as long as you have it rego'ed.
Collectors can make their own minds up.All the above comments are opinions on a very"wide"subject
that is bound to be interesting.The main question is "again a re-tagged" car?Do HQ'S go for more money?
As long as you are honest ,I think youv'e done the right thing and so would most people.Of course
value??,you and everyone else will always pay more for the correct parts/cars.
P.S...To me its still a monaro coupe none the less...Just sell it to the highest bidder.

I might be barking up the wrong tree here but..... a HQ modified to HJ is not just front panels. We are talking major dash modifications and the scuttle panel below the windscreen is also different. It has to be one or the other and really has nothing to do with rego papers? That is what the value will be based on? It cant be a mixture of both, the tags and chassis number are the cars identity.

Edited by user Friday, 13 May 2011 5:14:14 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

Hope you can too! That would be a find to put a smile on your face.