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#1 Posted : Saturday, 25 February 2012 9:29:31 AM(UTC)
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Hi, just wondering if anyone can help me I have a red motor 12 port head, looks like a blue motor 12 port head but its not as all the water jackets are red motor. There are no casting numbers on the head. I wanted to know who made these heads as every engine reconditioner I have seen have never seen a head like this, and want to know what it would be worth.
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#2 Posted : Sunday, 26 February 2012 5:32:16 AM(UTC)
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is it possible the holes have been welded and drilled?
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#3 Posted : Sunday, 26 February 2012 8:10:23 PM(UTC)
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No they haven't been welded or drilled. I have put a blue motor manifold gasket on the head and all the stud holes didn't line up, but they lined up when I put a red motor gasket on it, but all the inlets don't get covered by the gasket as they are raised like blue motor. This is definately red motor 12 port. I have a set of tripple su carbies on a speco manifold to suit this head. I tried to bolt these on a blue motor head but the bolt holes would not line up on blue motor studs.
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#4 Posted : Monday, 27 February 2012 3:20:54 AM(UTC)
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Maybe it is a Red motor head, with dividers.

Or it is a recast new Yella Terra Red motor head.

Some photo's may help
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#5 Posted : Monday, 27 February 2012 5:22:20 AM(UTC)
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i will post some photos of this head, and some of the blue motor head so you can see the differences. thnks
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#6 Posted : Monday, 27 February 2012 5:56:44 AM(UTC)
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, 28 February 2012 5:23:13 AM(UTC)
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Wasnt the VK black head 12 port also
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, 28 February 2012 5:46:43 AM(UTC)
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i may have seen this before. when i worked at holden dealer wayne hill way back when ,a vb commodore came into the workshop driven by the warranty guy from gmh, he was there to oversee the destruction of the warranty claim parts from the lock up. everyone in the workshop could see the car was a bit different in the styling areas and one of the boys got a screwdriver and opened the bonnet of the locked car. it was a prototype for the vc blue motor.we all had a good look and saw the 2 barell carb and electronic ignition. we all thought at the time why change something that works. kel
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, 28 February 2012 6:19:02 AM(UTC)
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yes the black motor is 12 port the same as the blue.i have been told this head would date back to the seventies.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, 28 February 2012 9:24:53 AM(UTC)
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It's definitely not blue or black, that's for sure.

My only suggestion is what Peter came up with further up, that it's a Yella Terra one.
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 28 February 2012 4:20:14 PM(UTC)
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Agree, looks like a 12 port conversison or a specially cast head. Does it still have cast numbers on it, or are they ground off? Doesn't look like it saw recent 12 port usage though (ie triple twin choke carbs) as the dividers are now knife edged.
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, 28 February 2012 11:24:08 PM(UTC)
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I think it has noting to do with a red head at all.
It's just a blue and a black head.
Give use the numbers on the heads & casting dates.
I think he is trying to fool us with the bottom one that looks like a red.
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, 29 February 2012 3:51:31 AM(UTC)
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this head has no cast numbers at all.it doesent look anything has been ground off it anywhere.to the bloke who said that i am trying to fool us you are wrong. have a good look at the photos,if you know what you are looking at,
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 29 February 2012 3:54:54 AM(UTC)
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this head was on a speedway car running tripple su carbies
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, 29 February 2012 5:47:34 AM(UTC)
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wow the ports are big!!!!


that's a amazing head, whatever it is!
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#16 Posted : Thursday, 1 March 2012 2:40:29 AM(UTC)
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I would like a photo of it showing the ports side and the combustion chamber.
I say it's bull and it is a red head img841 on top, look at not only the chamber but the side the head is a real 100% red motor head.
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#17 Posted : Thursday, 1 March 2012 3:38:34 AM(UTC)
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I am only after information on this head, it is quite obvious you don't know what you're looking at. I am not trying to fool anybody.
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#18 Posted : Thursday, 1 March 2012 4:42:42 AM(UTC)
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I cannot offer info as to what the head is, but I do know that there was a fellow in Victoria advertising cross flow heads for red motors in auto action in the 70s. I have a vague memory of a 12 port head also.

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#19 Posted : Thursday, 1 March 2012 7:09:30 AM(UTC)
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i think its some sort of modified holden head, he would feel happyer if we tell him it,s worth 1.1. million...
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#20 Posted : Thursday, 1 March 2012 12:32:05 PM(UTC)
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the head may have come off a HQ holden racer as i know a couple of the old boys that raced them and they done a lot of mod work to the engines without getting caught as they were meant to be stock to pass strict regulations to be able to race..could have been cast of an original head then passed off as a standard head. but as you have pointed out "everything is not what it seems" as in value try your luck on evilbay you just never know how much you might get
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