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Hi guys this question has probably been asked before but i'm still a tad confused on the best way to solve this. I have a HQ styleside ute with an injected 304 from a VP, i have kept the t700 and purchased a crossmember from the rod shop. So my question is what tailshaft to use. I spoke with a drive shaft company at brendale and they want around $500+ to make one. Price seems fair if i want a brand new shaft but is this neccesary?? Last time i did this it cost me $120 for someone to shorten my existing tailshaft and rebalance it, this was 12 years ago and in another state though.
Any idea's or does someone know anyone that can modify and existing shaft? Btw diff is just ya standard 10 bolt
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I have done a desktop measurement for this. as i want to run 350 chev / T700 and 10 bolt also in a HQ ute. the back of the T700 drive shaft is 60 mm longer than the standard position, you may be able to get away with a standard V8 sedan tailshaft on a ute, as the ute wheel base is 75mm longer i think from memory.....111 inch wheelbase Verses 114 inch wheelbase, so technically 72 -73 mm longer nett 15mm +/- 2 mm difference say i.e your v8 sedan tailshaft in a HQ ute in this configuration will be 15 mm shorter than the standard yoke position. .....also...if the car has a lowered rear, this 15mm difference will be less...so thats a good thing....may pick up to 5 mm here...?? whether 15 mm will make the difference as to will it work or not is upto you... given that you can probably get a V8 sedan tailshaft for $50 - $80 its worth a try... sell it again if it don't work... hope this helps , please please please! let me know how you get on. - i need to know too ta adam. Edited by user Wednesday, 29 February 2012 9:38:57 AM(UTC)
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Along the same lines i'd try measuring up a ute/van/wagon/statesman TH400 shaft and see how it goes for length. It will need a 1-tonner front yoke as the TH400 yoke used a bigger uni but it may be close to correct length. |
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whats a style side ute?
A yank thing. Dr Terry |
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Originally posted by wbute
whats a style side ute?
Not a one tonner!
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whats a style side ute?
Not a one tonner!
What's wrong with using its Aussie name - It's a Utility. Dr Terry |
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A style side is the original body/sides of the ute area instead of a tray with drop sides. |
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A style side is the original body/sides of the ute area instead of a tray with drop sides.
But the tray with drop sides is called a One-Tonner or cab-chassis & tray, it's not a ute. Dr Terry |
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A style side is the original body/sides of the ute area instead of a tray with drop sides.
I think you'll find a styleside is the name in the US for a cab chassis vehicle ordered with a tub on the back. Like a Hilux comes standard here with if you order it with a tub (or it comes standard on some). Nothing to do with a Holden ute, but I suppose it could be aimed at an AU onwards Ford ute with a tub on the back. |
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Yes, I think that the 'styleside' tag is applied to 'pick-ups' not Aussie utes. The Australian 'Coupe Utility' is unique in the way the tray & body are one, with the tray not removable.
I was going to mention that earlier, but Ford haven't made a real utility since the the XH in 1999. All Ford 'utes' since then (AU, BA & FG) are really only pick-ups. Funny, since Ford invented the 'ute' in 1932.
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Any ute sold in Australia whether it be a Holden, Nissan Navara or Toyota Hilux comes standard with a style side (a ute with the original body sides), you can then order a tray with drop sides. The term style side may have been originally a American term but you will find that all car manufacturers are now using this term the world over |
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Originally posted by adam PERTH
I have done a desktop measurement for this. as i want to run 350 chev / T700 and 10 bolt also in a HQ ute.
the back of the T700 drive shaft is 60 mm longer than the standard position, you may be able to get away with a standard V8 sedan tailshaft on a ute, as the ute wheel base is 75mm longer i think from memory.....111 inch wheelbase Verses 114 inch wheelbase,
so technically 72 -73 mm longer
nett 15mm +/- 2 mm difference say
i.e your v8 sedan tailshaft in a HQ ute in this configuration will be 15 mm shorter than the standard yoke position.
.....also...if the car has a lowered rear, this 15mm difference will be less...so thats a good thing....may pick up to 5 mm here...??
whether 15 mm will make the difference as to will it work or not is upto you...
given that you can probably get a V8 sedan tailshaft for $50 - $80 its worth a try... sell it again if it don't work...
hope this helps ,
please please please! let me know how you get on. - i need to know too
ta adam.
if ya going to use th ute 'as a ute' or decent horsepower i wouldnt go th HQ sedan tailshaft.. its a thinner wall thickness. im sure any tailshaft specialist will confirm this regards DD
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Any ute sold in Australia whether it be a Holden, Nissan Navara or Toyota Hilux comes standard with a style side (a ute with the original body sides), you can then order a tray with drop sides. The term style side may have been originally a American term but you will find that all car manufacturers are now using this term the world over
Examples from the Toyota website: WorkMate 4x2 Single-Cab Cab-Chassis (Tray not included). SR 4x4 Extra-Cab Cab-Chassis (Tray not included). There is no mention of the term style side anywhere. They use the term pickup when a tub is included. Nissan is the same. |
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@ DDavo... is the V8 sedan one a different thickness to the V8 ute / van one? they look to have the same external diameter....
but yeah, i see your point |
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I have worked for Nissan for many years as a salesman and we use the term style side for all our utes/work vehicles, you may not find the term on the websites or in the brochures but I can assure you that it's true |
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I have worked for Nissan for many years as a salesman and we use the term style side for all our utes/work vehicles, you may not find the term on the websites or in the brochures but I can assure you that it's true
I'm not doubting that you use the term style side to describe a pick-up fitted with a pressed metal type tray. But the only true utility on the market (VE Commodore) can't be ordered with any other type of tray, because it is a UTE. As you say, I doubt any Australian dealer network would use the term 'style side' in print. I've worked in the motor trade for 40 years, the last 18 years I've held a dealers license & I've only started hearing these terms used in Australia in the last year or so. Dr Terry |
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@ DDavo... is the V8 sedan one a different thickness to the V8 ute / van one? they look to have the same external diameter....
but yeah, i see your point
yes. sedan is 2mm wall. ute van & statey is 2.5mm wall. tonna is 3mm regards DD www.bellarineclassicautos.com.au
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