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I am thinking of putting an RB20DET into a Kingswood. Any comments and any advice?
I want to fit a V8 but I have been trying to get a 5.0L transported up from Melbourne for ages, thought this might be a good thing to play with - the guy seeling it reckons it has 220Kw at the wheels!!!!
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I think you are crazy! If you must do a later 6cyl conversion use a decent engine, like a VP-VY 3.8. Even that is mad in my opinion, a VN-VSIII 304 EFI is so much easier and cheaper.
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I'm with HK1837. If you're looking to get a V8, simply grab a wrecked donor with a 304 EFI. Bang for buck conversion. V6?, wouldn't bother. Same amount of work & virtually the same cost as V8 conversion.
RB20DET.....yep, great horsepower, but it is a heap of work to fit, especially when the V8 option is almost all factory components.
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Where are you located?
Surely you can buy a complete VN-VP including gearbox and put the whole lot straight in your Kingswood. There will be a couple little things like fuel injection pump and speedo calibration, but you would have parts from a complete smashed Commodore if you bought a whole car.
If you buy the Nissan motor you will need everything custom made, and engineers report.
Still it is up to you, you do what you want, and if you do it, a lot of older Holden (Pre HK) people will watch. |
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At least get the 3.0L bottom end if you really must go the RB conversion. The 2L has a severe lack of torque unless you add a lot of boost, and then it becomes a light switch to drive.
Hold off, get the EFI 5L, and have a nice cruiser with a lot more torque. |
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Hi, thanks for your comments and I agree on the most part. I will definately be fitting the V8 when I eventually get it. However, as for cost, I should put this into perspective.
I have been offered an RB20DET with all of the fittings to go straight into the HZ.
as he says :- It is a complete running engine and 5 speed gearbox conversion that came out of a running torana it includes: hydraulic clutch, throttle cable, all wiring and wiring loom, Microtech MT8 computer and hand held programming controller (alone worth $1400 ), intercooler, tail shaft (for torana would need to be lengthened for a Kingswood), engine mounts, fuel regulator, new heavy duty clutch as far as I am aware there is nothing more that needed to be spent.
all this for a little over $1000
I want the V8 but I think I will give it a go. At least then I can report back and say whether I have wasted $1000 or at least had some fun with it ;-)
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Personally I think it is $1000 wasted that could have gone towards an EFI V8 conversion! Before you decide, have a read here. This is a VN V6 into a HZ Kingswood. The V8 is the same except twice as easy, ie no welding, fabricating etc. Even if you go with the little Nissan engine the fuel tank setup will interest you: http://members.ozemail.c...ttsueferguson/index.htm
Here is an example of a car you could probably buy for $2500, and sell the rolling car for $500: http://www.carsales.com....num=15&silo=Stock&items=[Make:HOLDEN,Model:COMMODORE,Series:VP]&sort=default If the HZ is a factory T-bar it will operate the 4L60 box. All you have to do sump and engine mount wise is use the sump, pickup, dipstick and engine mounts off a HQ-WB V8. You'll have to do exhaust of course, but the same as the Nissan will need. Radiator etc is all HZ. HZ power steering will bolt straight up. You just need a HZ-WB TH350 crossmember for the box and a shortened tailshaft. HQ-HZ TH400 speedo cable works with the 4L60. You'll have to buy a speed sensor, move the battery and do some wiring mods but none of it is hard. Rest of the bits will come off the donor car. |
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Dont put a 2.0L nissan engine in a kingswood. I thought the 3.0L was pushing it for the VL. With an engine made for a small zippy car placed in something as big and heavy as the Kingswood you wont get any real power out of it. As has already been said, if you want to put a later model 6 cylinder in it put a Buick 3800 out of a VN/VP/VR. Thats just my opinion anyway, let us know how it goes :) |
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