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Out of interest, what parts on HKTG's were imported? I believe by HKTG, holdens had to be a certain percentage Aussy built parts and a small percentage allowed for imported parts.
Maybe the power steer setups where USA for example? |
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307, 327 and 350 engines plus most of the stuff on them bar a few bolts.
Powerglide transmissions.
M21 and M22 transmissions.
M21 and M22 bellhousings, clutch fork, and probably clutch.
M21 and M22 shifter mechanism.
HK GTS gear knob.
HK GTS steering wheel.
Salisbury housing centre casting and axle tubes.
Probably power steer setup as above.
Probably other stuff too, Simon and Dave will have a good idea on this stuff!
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A/C compressors even HQ-Z had GM part numbers |
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Rubber drain bung on heater housing? |
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Just for interests sake, the same air conditioning compressors were found on John Deere and Chamberlain tractors of the 70's and 80's and I have also seen the same style power steering pumps used as a small hydraulic pump on john deere round balers. So i would be suggesting that they were not actually a GM part but a generic part with a GM part number on them.
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I think those power steering pumps were made by salisbury, so USA again.
Power window switches and electric window motors? |
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Thought of another: some of the vinyls and cloths used on HK-HG interior eg Brougham. |
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Just for interests sake, the same air conditioning compressors were found on John Deere and Chamberlain tractors of the 70's and 80's and I have also seen the same style power steering pumps used as a small hydraulic pump on john deere round balers. So i would be suggesting that they were not actually a GM part but a generic part with a GM part number on them.
The GM A6 air cond compressor was designed & manufactured by GM & onsold to many other companies, including Ford, Jaguar, Rolls Royce, M/Benz etc. The same goes for the power steering pumps. These were designed & built by the Saginaw division of GM & again onsold to many other manufacturers. Even the Australian Ford Falcon has GM Saginaw p/st pumps on their 6-cyls from the 1983 XE to 2002 AU. Dr Terry |
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307, 327 and 350 engines plus most of the stuff on them bar a few bolts.
Powerglide transmissions.
M21 and M22 transmissions.
M21 and M22 bellhousings, clutch fork, and probably clutch.
M21 and M22 shifter mechanism.
HK GTS gear knob.
HK GTS steering wheel.
Salisbury housing centre casting and axle tubes.
Probably power steer setup as above.
Probably other stuff too, Simon and Dave will have a good idea on this stuff!
axle tubes in th 10 bolt were only banjo axles byron, & heater drain bung wasnt from any other car like th HQ style headlight switch &ignition etc were all delco remy DD www.bellarineclassicauto.com.au
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AFAIK Dave Salisbury cast centre with tubes came over as an assembly, and GMH welded the ends and spring perches on and had the axles made here. I suppose it is possible the tubes were done here too, but if you look at the puddle welds where the tubes are fixed to the cast centre they are identical to those on Camaros of the same era. The reason I suggested the heater box drain tube/bung was it has a part number starting in 3 which most of the US stuff had, plus this part number is a common number for Camaro, Firebird etc. Not sure if they are the same thing but part number suggests they are. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/OER-3148473/If you look in the HK-HG parts catalogue there is heads of part numbers with 3 at the front, mostlyengine and gearbox bits but also lots of other stuff like washers, tumblers in locks and ignition switches etc. |
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Why is that ^^^^ item $30 here and $10 there?
I am fully aware of market size and economy of scale, BUT if that item is made in China and exported why is three times the price here?
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Same reason the Pontiac GTO was stuff all in the US and $60k here as a CV8! And the same reason a twin cab 4x4 V6 auto Toyota Tahoma is approx $28k US plus onroads, and here it is $54k plus onroads as an SR5 Hilux. |
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The reason Australians pay more for the same goods as other countries is simple. We are seen as a soft touch. Nothing to do with the cost of importation or economies of scale. Buying online, really high lights these differences in price. Often I can buy the same product overseas cheaper, including shipping. Sometimes for less then half the cost here. This is very apparent with performance parts. |
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AC outlet
M20
Knobs on recliners
Power steering ram and valve
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Good one Warren, the M20 box! I forgot about it. What about its shifter? |
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Power window switches, motors.
Recliner seat mechs and both the dial knob and the small ribbed lever button.
Air con
Power steer
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AFAIK Dave Salisbury cast centre with tubes came over as an assembly, and GMH welded the ends and spring perches on and had the axles made here. I suppose it is possible the tubes were done here too, but if you look at the puddle welds where the tubes are fixed to the cast centre they are identical to those on Camaros of the same era.
The reason I suggested the heater box drain tube/bung was it has a part number starting in 3 which most of the US stuff had, plus this part number is a common number for Camaro, Firebird etc. Not sure if they are the same thing but part number suggests they are.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/OER-3148473/
If you look in the HK-HG parts catalogue there is heads of part numbers with 3 at the front, mostlyengine and gearbox bits but also lots of other stuff like washers, tumblers in locks and ignition switches etc.
yes that drain bung is straight from th states. & although many use it in HKTG its not correct. HKTG from factory used different type being thin rubber like a bike tube
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Ah, makes sense now. I wonder why they used the same part number? I just looked at that part number doesn't appear in early HK parts catalogues, but appears later. I wonder if the original types were replaced with a US part which did the job for aftermarket sales? This isn't without precedent in parts catalogues. |
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Out of interest, what parts on HKTG's were imported? I believe by HKTG, holdens had to be a certain percentage Aussy built parts and a small percentage allowed for imported parts.
Maybe the power steer setups where USA for example?
Greetings, You need to be very careful here with your statement. The very basic Holden car had the highest local content. It was close to 99% and for good reason. As the options were applied to the various models the local content figure came crashing back to earth. Even the materials used in the seats of different models impacted on the local content. A Brougham has special latex foam padding that came from Asia (look at the padding in an original Brougham and you will see the foreign markings on it). Regular cars used local foam padding. Many items mentioned already like switches, etc., were local versions of the U.S. items so they were different and counted towards the local content figure. Parts for the cars came from all over the world. |
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Thought of another: some of the vinyls and cloths used on HK-HG interior eg Brougham.
Greetings, More so the materials underneath, but certainly the Brocade used in HK and HT Brougham. HG was a local product. |
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