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Hi guys I'm new to this forum, my name is Dan. I have a question to anyone knowlegable on panelvans. My mate says he has a genuine hk 186s panelvan, did they make these?
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186S was optional across the HK range so it is entirely possible. There are 4 x gearboxes possible as well: 3spd crash (hydraulic clutch), 3spd all synchro (mechanical clutch), powerglide (colun shift only) or Saginaw M22 (stick shift). Unfortunately it won't be easy to pick if it was originally a 186S. |
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So does this mean that there are no codes on the id tags to verify this?
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If its got its original books you could verify. Not sure about HK's, but HR's when ordered with 186S, were fitted with a limited slip diff and full instrument dash.
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Hey thanks man, we'll check it out, thanks for posting
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If its got its original books you could verify. Not sure about HK's, but HR's when ordered with 186S, were fitted with a limited slip diff and full instrument dash.
Not 100% correct. Yes, all 186-S HRs got the full instrument dash as standard, but the LSD was not part of the package. An LSD was a separate option available for any HR & not standard on any particular version. Likewise the instruments, while they were standard with the 186-S engine (X2 as well) they could be optioned (or fitted by the dealer as an accessory) on any HR. Meaning that their presence does not guarantee that the car was a genuine 186-S. To my knowledge no other options came standard with a 186-S in HK/T/G. As you said in your opening sentence, original books or purchase papers would be the only real proof that the car was a genuine 186-S Dr Terry |
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I'veonly ever seen one example, a HK van. It was a 4spd (M22), and had the sports instruments. It was white with bucket seats (I think it had buckets). It ended up in a demo derby though, I missed the car by 10 minutes out of the local paper for $250. This is back in the early 90's. |
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Thanks for all the info guys
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Terry, regarding HR's with 186s option. I have owned a couple of these over the years and all I owned, were factory fitted with LSD. Its the 1st I have heard it not being part of the 186S package. I suppose if your right then a high percentage were optioned with both the 186S together with the LSD. Had a X2, and this was not fitted with a LSD as part of the X2 package. |
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Another clue to 186s is the auto choke. There is a blanking cap over the position on dash cluster were the manual choke is located and no script saying choke on same. |
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No manual choke on HK or HR |
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HGV8 is correct, no version of the 186-S had a manual choke, they were all auto-choke. That's a good method of auto-choke ID, the choke blank & panel with no lettering are quite rare.
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Just on a side note - did a late HG van, with a 173/202, ever come out with 186s headers, as factory or dealer fitted?
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Just on a side note - did a late HG van, with a 173/202, ever come out with 186s headers, as factory or dealer fitted?
Definitely not at the factory. Engines always left the engine plant complete & were not 'fiddled with' at the various assembly plants. Of course dealers were sometimes well known for 'enhancing' cars at buyers request. Dr Terry |
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Great information guys, thanks for the info
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