....g'day all .. just tooling around on the internet this arvo and see that Amethyst Metallic wasn't available on the Monaro's, (which i wasn't aware of) but that also there were two different codes for that colour in 1971....

...this has been a niggle to me for over 35 years as i reckon there always was a very ''washed out'' pale looking Amethyst and a very 'bold'' almost plum looking Amethyst...

...my 1971 GTS 350 has the latter of the two, and i can distinctly recall seeing a lot of HQ sedans back in the day with that awful looking pale colour...but also a couple of the bolder coloured ones sometimes here and there....

...is there a reasonable explanation for this?...i am talking about cars that were original and untouched from way back then....cheers fellas

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Originally posted by detective
....g'day all .. just tooling around on the internet this arvo and see that Amethyst Metallic wasn't available on the Monaro's, (which i wasn't aware of) but that also there were two different codes for that colour in 1971....

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I only have one code listed for Amethyst metallic & no MkII versions mentioned.

What are the 2 code numbers that you have ?

I'm not sure about Amethyst in particular but I always believed that metallics were made avialable for Kingswood/Monaro level cars for HG onwards. Prior to that, they were availble only for Premier/GTS (& above).

Dr Terry

...Hi all .. if you google "HQ Holden Amethyst"...it opens up a lot of (mis?)information...

...i'm guessing HK1837 is right regarding the base Monaro not having that colour ??.....cheers fellas

...also there appears to be two versions of the same code...13121/2A001 - and 2A001 metallic...both 1971 colours....?

...BTW .. just checking the paint/trim codes on this one here and it reads...paint 567-13121...trim 1826-18Y....

Edited by user Thursday, 20 November 2014 2:08:47 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

2A001 is a GMH code for both Dulon and Burger. These codes came in during VC Commodore, after the HH code Berger paint experiment.

Warren

Some of the colours might have pre-dated VC, but that's when GMH literature advises of the changeover, and the active colours at the time were converted over to the new codes (and some of those colours had been around for years).

Earlier VCs still have the old 567-xxxxx and 568-xxxxx codes on them, but the later ones all went to the 1X### and 2X### codes, which were well in place by the 9/81 VH release.

As an examples:
- The first (solid) Red code was Firethorn.
- 2nd (metallic) blue was Atlantis
- 1st (metallic) Green was Malachite
All of these colours were used on other models, and pre-date the VC in some applications (particularly Firethorn) but that's when those codes were born.

H colours are the Berger trial colours, as Warren noted above, and these were limited to a handful of colours.

What we're talking about is the change in the numbering system, which brought in the 1x-000-z, with 1 being the type (solid or 2 for metallic) X being the colour family, 000 being the sequential shade number, and z being either (B)erger or (D)ulux.

The old 567/568 numbers that were still in current use during VC were converted over to the new system, and THIS is why there's 2 references for the same colour - it is the same colour, just a different numbering system.

In '88/89 they dropped the B/D suffix.
In 1993/4 they dropped the digit off the front (corresponding with the paint change on VR2).

Prior to VE the codes all changed again, to a completely different system, but this was run in parallel as far back as early VY (and maybe even VX). Thus we still have paints popping up under several codes (eg Heron White, Red-Hot etc) as they carried through both periods.

Yes, the -D is Dulon acrylic for both.

Torquay Sand was out on early VH (released during VC) but Spindrift wasn't out until VK (and corresponding WB models) although it's number range puts it in '83 as to when it was "approved" so to speak.

You can also date them from the combo numbers - 1972 just pre-dates 1979 which is Venetian Red (first seen in 9/81 VH) and 30** numbers are late VH and all VK onwards (unless they brought back an old colour like Police blue or Tuxedo Black, which retained their combo number from the 70s (or 60s)).