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#1 Posted : Friday, 9 January 2015 1:59:17 AM(UTC)
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Hi, First post here..
Holden lists unique part numbers for GTS 350 engine splash trays
(manual cars only) a mate of mine with a genuine Manual HT350 is wondering if anyone had ever seen one or how they were different from any other splash tray...vented perhaps ??
Australian Muscle Car mag HT Monaro edition shows a scan of
a page showing the listing for these.
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#2 Posted : Friday, 9 January 2015 6:18:18 AM(UTC)
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Something to do with the power steering I think.
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#3 Posted : Friday, 9 January 2015 6:37:26 AM(UTC)
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Thanks, your post appreciated and very interesting.....has anyone ever seen a manual HT GTS 350 with power steer though?
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#4 Posted : Friday, 9 January 2015 6:53:36 AM(UTC)
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That's a good mystery.
I've got a genuine pair of HT 350 manual splash pans, and a pair off a 161 HT wagon, and they look identical to me. Neither car had power steering.
The HT parts book I've got, M36831 - 1972, lists the LH as 7433501, and the RH as 7433500, for all models.
I'd be interested to see the scan, or know of its source.
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#5 Posted : Friday, 9 January 2015 7:30:02 AM(UTC)
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My friend is very knowledgable on all things Monaro and has pondered this for years...he gave me a copy of the scan the other
day, I'll post the part numbers as soon as I can as I left it elsewhere..I see Warren Turnbull is on this forum, hopefully
he will read this and maybe know something.
thanks for your post GM5735
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#6 Posted : Friday, 9 January 2015 8:03:50 AM(UTC)
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...there is a chance that the varying part numbers were to do with a different vendor (parts) provider ??....
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#7 Posted : Friday, 9 January 2015 9:43:51 AM(UTC)
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Only difference i can see is some have holes for radiator overflow tubes but i dont know which do an which dont as mine are long time missing also. Are some pressed to suit the 253 308 sway bar that has a bend i think from memory to clear the oil filter.thou mine is too far from original to be pedantic i am interested in your findings
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The left hand splash pan has a hole in it, for which I can only think of one functions, to drain power steering fluid split when filling the reservoir.

The 350 cars have a different stabiliser bar to everything else, but I don't think they are that much bigger so as to need more splash tray clearance.

Perhaps someone has an earlier parts book than mine, which lists the different types, but I'm 90% certain that they were all the same by September 1969.
I also know of a survivor HG350 manual with power steering, so I'll have a look at it next time I'm up that way and see what it has.
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#9 Posted : Friday, 9 January 2015 6:40:44 PM(UTC)
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Ok, here are the numbers as shown in Australian Muscle Car magazine Issue#46 Page 40

8.112 PAN -Engine Front Splash PAN...............(M) 350Eng..............LH 2810665
RH 2810664
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#10 Posted : Sunday, 11 January 2015 12:14:34 AM(UTC)
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Sorry I cannot add to this, I too have been stumped by this one for years, gave up looking for an answer years ago.

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#11 Posted : Sunday, 11 January 2015 3:03:45 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Warren,

My mate thinks these were a "race" option part so looking on factory original cars won't tell us much
maybe some of the guys that worked on the Bathurst spec race cars back then might know.

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#12 Posted : Sunday, 11 January 2015 5:32:44 AM(UTC)
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Bathurst spec cars?

Under production racing, which Bathurst came under in those days, the cars had to be identical to the raod going cars.

Some people purchased a car, gave it a good check over, drove it to Bathurst and raced it. So if a race car had it Bathurst then every 81837 manual should have it.

They even recalled cars to fit parts so that the part could be used at bathurst. ie air cleaner, brake vents, wheels and heads to name a few.

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#13 Posted : Monday, 12 January 2015 12:35:09 AM(UTC)
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My friend agrees on all those things Warren, these splash pans may have been one of those items they fitted on their "factory recalls"
(really designed so race teams could legally fit them)....so they would be some very rare items indeed.
Unless someone has a sketch in a parts book or actually finds one then I guess thats as far as we can go right now..
Thanks and Cheers Alan
p.s. 10 years since you signed my Monaro story/facts book at the Nationals in Bathurst!
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#14 Posted : Monday, 12 January 2015 2:24:55 AM(UTC)
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I just asked Ben when I we were discussing some HK paperwork. The unique HT GTS350 splash trays were part of the upgrade stuff available so that Harry could use certain stuff for Bathurst, included the higher flowing 186 cast heads and the other bits and pieces. The trays were vented apparently, but were removed from use altogether once Harry got his recall mods made - the holes in the radiator support for air flow negated the requirement. I think he said they can only be found in the update parts catalogue issued at the time, and were removed from subsequent ones.
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#15 Posted : Monday, 12 January 2015 2:39:12 AM(UTC)
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..i had read many moons ago how some of the race GTS 350's had the front bumper bar (brackets) modified to allow a larger gap (top or bottom?)for more efficient airflow to some of the vitals ??.....
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#16 Posted : Monday, 12 January 2015 4:49:07 AM(UTC)
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Great forum, you guys are on it, good to see some input from Ben too, coincidentally my mate (from here on I'll call him "Bob")
said something the other day about vent holes cut in the radiator support and maybe other cooling tweaks,
perhaps to do with the bumper bar as mentioned by detective...
I think he said some of the South African cars had something going on in this regard,
I'm waiting for him to check this forum and get back to me, he doesnt post to forums so I guess I have to be the middle
man which makes it a bit awkward sometimes but he does know a lot about HKTG Chev and Torana.
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#17 Posted : Monday, 12 January 2015 5:21:38 AM(UTC)
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...i just googled "Harry Firth HT Monaro bumper mods"....there is quite a bit of discussion under various headings....
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#18 Posted : Monday, 12 January 2015 9:29:08 AM(UTC)
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With reference to the vents in the front panel behind the bumper have you noticed the african cars are neatly stamped out in production whilst ours were hacked and just folded back.
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They were done as a dealer recall, hence the roughness.
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#20 Posted : Monday, 12 January 2015 9:06:08 PM(UTC)
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Some of the cars were done by the dealer and others done by the factory. I have seen a numbe of different methods used by dealers, including a hole saw.

As for the bumper, rumour has it that the race cars were jacked up by their front bumpers to bend the bumper upward to allow more air flow. I would not try this on a road car, because if you are successful in bending the brackets the bolts in the guards may cause damage to the guard, which is not a problem on a race car. If you take those bolts out the bumper will not allign properly anymore.

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