Would appreciate if anyone can tell me whether the wide bonnet & boot stripes were gloss or matt finish. Also, I'd assume the horizontal stripe across the boot lid was the same finish as other stripes.
Also does anyone have details of where the mounting holes of the GTS badge are located on the boot so I can fit it correctly? My boot has no badge holes. Thanks

...back in the day all acrylic metallics were clear coated with that most wonderful of products.."Dulon Super X Wildfire Clear" (groan..groan)....

...the very worst stuff to have ever been applied to any car!....I'm pretty sure GMH used this rotten stuff as a factory finish, and my '71 Amethyst with White stripes GTS350 had/has the awful crows feet even then from back in 1979 when i first purchased it....uurrgghh!!

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Persian Gold is definitely gloss as it is cleared over metallic. I don't believe the black on the stripes to be gloss as they were done in the finishing area - HQ blacks are all satin 578-04149, as is the blacks on others like Sandman, L34 and A9X. I cannot for certain tell you if HK-HT are the same but i'd be surprised if they are different. I have the Engineering drawings for where the black goes on HT but it says to refer to Car Colour Spec for colours which I don't have :-( . But I do have it for HQ.

As above it is possible the HT sill and boot lower are done in the body plant as the join is under the moulding. HT Brougham has gloss metallic silver in the same spot and the join is at the mouldings too.

I asked Ben and the HT stripes and blackouts are 568 line Warrigal black. HK use 566 Warrigal which I think is a satin or off-gloss.

HK 566-06459 gloss

Hmmm conflicting info
So am I correct in saying for a HK GTS the stripes would be the same gloss level and actually the same paint as the firewall and the front and upper areas of the subframe and about half of the tunnel and the concaved section in the boot, ie: unbuffed 566-06459 (whatever that looks like)

I'd like to see the mixing details of 566-06459 and 568-06459 and compare them.

My car:



Recent restoration with satin.


Wayne

To quote Ben Stewart directly, from a discussion we've been having for some time on some of the nuances:

"HK GTS Warrigal Black paint outs were done in a 566-line acrylic. But we know that the 'old' lines were replaced by the 'new' ones late in 1968 when solid colours moved from 585-line to 568-line, and metallics from 587 to 567. The 'new' lacquer was referred to as "Type E". I would go so far as to so say that 1969 HK GTS used the new 568-line Warrigal Black for the black outs but have no specification documentation to support this to date. This means that 1968 and 1969 HK GTSs in original paint should show a very subtle difference not only in the colour itself but also the black. HT and HG were done in 568-line acrylic. Now, a '6' and an '8'
can look similar depending on hand writing, viewing angle, lighting etc., and it could be quite easy to mis-type them as a result. Mixing the two different lines was not on, but the new lacquer was fine for touching up the earlier one.

As far as the finish goes, every car was buffed on the assembly line so all are smooth and shiny. The GTSs had the black stripes applied post-assembly line in Touch Up. This is why the stripes can go all crazy yet the underlying colour remains good. The colour was baked in the furnaces but the black stripes were not for obvious reasons. The black stripes were then buffed so they were shiny like the rest of the car.
Over time, the black stripes could dull off (particularly the 566-line
Warrigal) as they were not baked, and this is where the notion of 'satin' stripes come from I imagine."

To repeat my earlier stated opinion, the HK stripes (and HT+HG for that matter) started life as a gloss finish, as 566 and 568 line Dulon Warrigal is a gloss paint but, of course, being an acrylic doesn't achieve full gloss until it is buffed.

Wayne. as far as I know all the stuff in the GTS and Brougham engine bay is painted 568 (or earlier 585) but as it isn't buffed, and probably the bits not on the firewall are air dry rather than oven baked thus it isn't as glossed up like the exterior. Remember for example at Pagewood and Dandenong and I think Acacia Ridge the guards and bonnet were painted with the car and baked, but the front sub-frame at Acacia Ridge and Pagewood would probably be painted in the assembly plant thus air dried. I think maybe Dandenong painted the car with the subframe on so it will have oven dried paint. Elizabeth painted the front panels separate to the car, as did Dandenong and Pagewood for vans and tonners, so not sure how that was done either.

HK Beaver was painted in the body plant as the tail-lights and centre strip went on in the body plant, it will be oven dried gloss and ity looks that way in the photo you posted.

I'll look again, but HQ black stuff is all 578 which is satin but as Geoff says Ben would be the best guide. I did think 566 was the early paint line version of 578 though. HQ, LH, LX etc all used a satin on exterior blackout, which is 578 and was all applied in the finishing area. This all looked satin, or off-gloss when new but today on an original paint Sandman especially HZ behind the doors looks like pure gloss. But as HT is gloss then HK might well be too originally.