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Guest		#1 Posted : Sunday, 25 December 2005 4:54:35 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		hey guys i own a hj kingswood with a 202 on dual fuel, it has a 350 holley and small extractors. the engine has been reco'd about 30,000 km ago. What i'm chasing is some cheap power. honestly all i want is to be able to keep up with most commodores say VN-VP's and to be able to get the wheels spinning. is this asking to much for a 202? what do you guys suggest doing to it without going as far as a whole new engine.

cloudy		#2 Posted : Sunday, 25 December 2005 5:56:20 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 2,047		Build it up to LJ XU1 spec and a 3:36 ratio diff -these 202`s raced at bathurst. But if you don`t have a big wallet and I take it yours is an auto,change it to a manual and 3:55 or 3:36 diff ratio will get it spinning all over, but forget about out doing
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Guest		#3 Posted : Sunday, 25 December 2005 6:14:45 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		There'd be many goodies a red 202 would want for xmas but just as a stocking filler you could give ol' red a blue electronic dizzy: Merry Christmas one and all

Guest		#4 Posted : Sunday, 25 December 2005 6:09:32 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Cheap power eh! Well, im guessing you mean your looking to spend less than $1000 (which is very do-able!), but you need to tell us more about your car! Is it auto or manual, what diff ratio, does it have subwoofers?? I have a UC Torana and the old mo

Guest		#5 Posted : Sunday, 25 December 2005 8:48:51 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		My car has the stock 3 speed auto, i am unsure of the diff ratio, but i'm looking at getting an LSD with a celica 5spd in front of it like cloudy suggests. what is involved in converting it to straight gas? what areas should i expect gains in by ins

Guest		#6 Posted : Sunday, 25 December 2005 9:35:38 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Good move going for the celica box and lsd! I have a 4speed, but supra box is waiting to go behind my worked motor!! You'll pick up some pace in just doing that! With regards to going straight gas, im not 100% on that - pretty sure you'd just go stra

peter_flane		#7 Posted : Sunday, 25 December 2005 10:07:26 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 22/05/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,384		I am in agreeance with the others that you wont have a Commodoresque type of acceleration for $1500 spent on your motor. A straight gas setup Gas Research carby, electronic ignition, extractors, extra items that will crop up along the way, Proper dyno tun
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HK1837		#8 Posted : Monday, 26 December 2005 7:17:08 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,742 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 516 time(s) in 492 post(s)		Thinking outside the square: Buy a rusted out HQ-HZ or VB Commodore with 308 for $1000. Swap it all over. You will have to buy a new gas converter and newgen mixer also.
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Guest		#9 Posted : Monday, 26 December 2005 7:07:54 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Then there's that! Personally i would rather rebuild a V8 if its in a rusted out heap! I like my car to hold its oil and burn its fuel! Keith!

HK1837		#10 Posted : Tuesday, 27 December 2005 4:03:15 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,742 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 516 time(s) in 492 post(s)		Yes, but there are always good quality vehicles out there that someone has spent good money on rebuilding a V8 (or 6cyl for that matter) and the body has rusted away from being parked outside in a coastal city. Normally the owners want $2500 for them, but
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Guest		#11 Posted : Tuesday, 27 December 2005 9:39:17 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Thanks for all the help guys. I've decided on a celica 5 speed, lsd with 3:55 gears and some new extractors and maybe some head work. later in the year i think i'll find out more about goin straight gas, and get a cam lifters roller rockers and the

80737k		#12 Posted : Tuesday, 27 December 2005 10:00:20 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Registered, Veteran Joined: 4/12/2005(UTC) Posts: 1,062 Location: western victoria		is fitting a 12 port head from a blue motor worth doing? What would improve by doing this? Ooroo
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Guest		#13 Posted : Tuesday, 27 December 2005 10:14:15 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		http://carpoint.ninemsn....alias=carpointau&id=7229 obviously building a motor to this spec would cost over $1000, but it gives you a good idea of which parts can work well.

Guest		#14 Posted : Wednesday, 28 December 2005 10:25:28 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		The Blue heads breathe better than the reds and VK injection bolts straight onto them. That's the good bit. The bad bit is trying to find aftermarket manifolds for different carbies...rare and expensive! Cheers...Dave

Guest		#15 Posted : Wednesday, 28 December 2005 10:11:53 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		Good on ya steve! Give us a yell if you need help building up your motor or what not when the time comes!!

Guest		#16 Posted : Thursday, 29 December 2005 8:07:08 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		hey all it's steve, i finaly filled out the rego. I'll definatly keep you guys posted on whats going on with my car. I'll post you guys some pic of my HJ.

Duzty		#17 Posted : Thursday, 29 December 2005 8:37:33 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 29/06/2005(UTC) Posts: 706		i had a bloke in perth try and sell me his worked 202 kingswood for $15000. but he had his hand on it, and the resto job was very nice. but theres 400hp chevs for less than that. i would say get a 253 and work it stroke it out to 290ci, you can get up aro Edited by user Thursday, 29 December 2005 12:31:35 PM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified
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Guest		#18 Posted : Thursday, 29 December 2005 5:46:22 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		I'd have to disagree with a part of your statement Duzty! Not saying you dont know your stuff mate, but all the racing guru's are no longer polishing their heads after porting them - this is due to scientific flow research proving that a head will flow b

Guest		#19 Posted : Friday, 30 December 2005 8:10:07 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		I would just look in car parts magazine like "just parts" and just bite your time and you will find something good! but good luck Nothing beats cubic inches !!!

Guest		#20 Posted : Monday, 9 January 2006 11:20:16 PM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		hey guys i've done my research and converting to manual is going to blow my budget skyhigh. Did any 202's come out with 4speed auto's? or is there any 4speed's that can be used with a red 202? thanks

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