Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 2/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,307
|
hey yall,
i might be needing a late model 308 engine to go in front of my T400.
just wondering which engines will fit?
i know i have read it in here before,,but could not find it again?
thankee
bcb
ptpro
some men see things as they are, and ask "why"
I dream of things that never were, and say, "bloody ripper idea mate, lets try it",!! |
more than basketcase than a bear!
DOH!!! |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC)
Posts: 990
|
everything VN onwards.
In cubes we trust.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,898
Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)
|
Including GenIII and IV.
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 2/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,307
|
hey thanks boom byron,,
can these engines run ok with carby?
and are they alloy heads? and if so, how much lighter, ruffly,, are they compared to cast head 308?
cheers
bcb
ptpro
some men see things as they are, and ask "why"
I dream of things th |
more than basketcase than a bear!
DOH!!! |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC)
Posts: 990
|
they are still cast heads(304, not Gen III and IV) not much lighter. They do run o.k with a carby, but you have to get the right manifold. lots of choices though. lowest i've seen is $350 for an edelbrock performer. highest is a harrop single plane - $880
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC)
Posts: 990
|
they are still cast heads(304, not Gen III and IV) not much lighter. They do run o.k with a carby, but you have to get the right manifold. lots of choices though. lowest ive seen is $350 for an edelbrock performer. highest is a harrop single plane - $880.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,898
Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)
|
As Boom says theyll work fine. The VN on V8 engines are basically identical to the earlier ones, but the heads are different hence the different manifold (and cam and exhaust). All the early stuff still fits them otherwise eg water pump, timing case, dizz |
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 14,898
Thanks: 1 times
Was thanked: 558 time(s) in 533 post(s)
|
As Boom says they'll work fine. The VN on V8 engines are basically identical to the earlier ones, but the heads are different hence the different manifold (and cam and exhaust). All the early stuff still fits them otherwise eg water pump, timing case, diz |
_______________________________________________________
If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords? |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 2/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,307
|
thanks again boom byron,
as i did a conversion, and the 308 i put in, is slightly heavier i think than the diesal that came out??
the van seems a little bit more spongy, for want of a better term,,
as i am a little worried about the motor that went in |
more than basketcase than a bear!
DOH!!! |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC)
Posts: 990
|
no changes to the manifold. but if you go straight gas, then bolt the GRA throttlebody to the bananas.
there are alloy heads, but not factory.
In cubes we trust.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 2/08/2006(UTC)
Posts: 1,307
|
hey thanks BOOM.!!!
I presume the GRA throttle body, is the bit that is bolted onto the top of the qaud carby??
so are you meaning to wipe the qaud carby? and then bolt the whole gas gizmo straight onto the top of the banana looking manifold?
and if |
more than basketcase than a bear!
DOH!!! |
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC)
Posts: 990
|
oh, ok you're using a gas hat, sorry i presumed you meant a gas research throttlebody. if you are using a gas hat on top of a quadrajet, then you need a carburettor manifold to suit the heads that are on the engine (Pre Pollution/Pollution/VN-VT).
----
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC)
Posts: 990
|
oh, ok youre using a gas hat, sorry i presumed you meant a gas research throttlebody. if you are using a gas hat on top of a quadrajet, then you need a carburettor manifold to suit the heads that are on the engine (Pre Pollution/Pollution/VN-VT).
-----
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/08/2005(UTC)
Posts: 243
|
Mr Bear,
sometimes you have to think outside the forrest.....
What price do you think gas is going to be in 2 years time....??
Maybe 75 cents.... 85 cents
Put a V6 commodore motor in it .......
15% lighter......that fixes that prob
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC)
Posts: 990
|
100% less bragging rights, and 99% less aural pleasure.
In cubes we trust.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/08/2005(UTC)
Posts: 243
|
....???
I wonder Mr Boom....?
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Guest
Groups: Guests
Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC)
Posts: 43,977
Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)
|
well shiver me timbers there,, muskell, i,m still trying to look outside the square,, now you want me to look outside a forest???
no way hosay!!
but you are certainly talking the talk, and probably walking the walk!!
ok lets get serious pro,s an
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 2/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 2,898
Was thanked: 2 time(s) in 2 post(s)
|
Best bet is the VN 5.0 fitted with a 253/308 dissy. Replace the throttle body with a GRA mixer (as Boom said) OR adapt your gas hat to work with the 304's throttle body. Option 2 should not be that hard. You will end up with a more powerful engine t Edited by user Tuesday, 1 April 2008 1:24:34 AM(UTC)
| Reason: Not specified |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Veteran
Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran
Joined: 2/03/2005(UTC)
Posts: 2,898
Was thanked: 2 time(s) in 2 post(s)
|
Best bet is the VN 5.0 fitted with a 253/308 dissy. Replace the throttle body with a GRA mixer (as Boom said) OR adapt your gas hat to work with the 304s throttle body. Option 2 should not be that hard. You will end up with a more powerful engine th Edited by user Tuesday, 1 April 2008 1:24:34 AM(UTC)
| Reason: Not specified |
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rank: Member
Groups: Registered
Joined: 29/08/2005(UTC)
Posts: 243
|
Thats the point....if youre going fuel injected V8,
youll need different petrol tank then the manifold...cat converter.....in Victoria you might have to get a VASS reort for that....not sure, they cost $700 (appox)....so ring vic roads first.
Its just
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forum Jump
You cannot post new topics in this forum.
You cannot reply to topics in this forum.
You cannot delete your posts in this forum.
You cannot edit your posts in this forum.
You cannot create polls in this forum.
You cannot vote in polls in this forum.
