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Hope not a silly question but dont know what it is. Was it found on special models.Sounds like it might be desirable for keeping cars original or was it better than a cable.
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Rat trap is the nickname given to the type of mechanical clutch linkage seen on HK to HZ Holdens & LC to UC Toranas before the Commodore (full cable set-up) was introduced. There are several types. V8 Toranas & Holdens HX onwards had a system utilising a cable & a small bell-crank linkage at the bell-housing.
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im pretty sure the clutch in my HX is a rat trap and i advise you not to get one, its ridiculously stiff. you get in another car and put your foot through the floor once youre used to the rat trap
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i have rat trap setup for sale if you want
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i have rat trap setup for sale if you want
Will you actually send it if Ado pays you? I seem to be out of pocket $100 for air shocks I never got!
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were do you live i have about 4 i think bit rusty and need cleaning but you can have them if you come get them north brisbane. |
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im pretty sure the clutch in my HX is a rat trap and i advise you not to get one, its ridiculously stiff. you get in another car and put your foot through the floor once youre used to the rat trap
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Mr void, what do you mean by heavy? if u mean it in the way i think, then yes i do haha. but if youre referring to a specific type of clutch im not sure
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I need a complete ratrap clutch set up for HQ HJ. inc bellhousing. and skinny pedal cable.
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V8 one,
sorry for hyjacking thread, but dr terry has answered it.
looking aus wide, ...
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send me a pic adam if you can find one and ill see if they match any of the ones i got. |
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I need a complete ratrap clutch set up for HQ HJ. inc bellhousing. and skinny pedal cable.
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-2 x 15 x 8 Dragway centrelines
Hi Adam, I have a HQ V8 rat trap bell housing, dust cover & fork, but no rat trap setup (8 is same as 6) if you are interested, Im on the vic nsw border. Came out of a early HQ tonner. HOLDEN The Great Way to Move |
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i think bellhousing rat trap brackets are different for v8 and 6. please email me [email protected]WANTED: -2 14 x 9.25 CSA style Centrelines. -2 x 15 x 8 Dragway centrelines |
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yep your right, the brackets that bolt to the bellhousing are different, the rest is the same, only the bracket is different
i will take a pic of the brackets and post the pic
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top one is 6 cyl, bottom is V8, you can modify the 6 cyl easily to be a V8, all you need to do is cut off the tag on the side and drill a hole where the white dot is drawn
the V8 bracket is made of thicker steel and is a little wider, but i modified a 6 cyl one years ago and im still using it today
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Hi adam. email sent
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If you guys call the Holden clutch set-up a rat trap, then what would you call the nightmare system used in a HQ 350 4-speed? After many years of sourcing parts and from assistance from the guru in Sydney, I now have a fully functioning and totally correct looking set-up. Whoever designed the thing was either very clever or trying to cure an impossible situation in a very complex manner. The company would have lots lots of money on this aspect of the HQ series. Maybe thats why they needed to churn out nearly half a million of the cars to recoup the cost blowout of the Muncie clutch system? This part of any Monaro would hold the record for the most unique parts I would imagine.
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That setup is commonly known as a "flea circus". Lots of moving parts leaving you wondering whats operating which!
I reckon the HX and HZ 1/2 cable and half rat-trap is heaps uglier than the HQ-HJ setup.
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ive never seen one barnsey, got a pic, they sound interesting
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