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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 24 February 2010 8:01:40 AM(UTC)
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Gday,

First time post for me, stumbled across your forum and found it to be very interesting/informative so registered!

Was wondering if someone has a few pointers on the best 304/5SPD to throw in my HG monaro. Ive had a HG 80437 Monaro sitting in the shed for years, finally have an opportunity to do something with it. Been told VN/VP looms are the best to work with, could one of these be wired to a VT 5L? Also what gearbox would be best out of the 5 speeds, heard the earlier versions run the mechanical speedo cable which saves $, but as far as shifter position, need to cut tunnel is there any box that would be preferable, T5/Getrag.

Would love to throw a 6L in it out of a Commodore wreck but buying the engine and gearbox is one thing, then buying all the conversion bits probably adds up to double the price of installation. Anyone here done this conversion?

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Steve
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#2 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 5:18:07 AM(UTC)
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there is alot of info(detailed really well)on this forum ,use the search function.p.s.dont know about the engine swap in a hg monaro being too popular here thou,i would try originallity,but each to their own.

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#3 Posted : Friday, 26 February 2010 6:14:33 AM(UTC)
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Id forget the 5spd, and go with a box that needs no major floor mods like a Muncie or a TH350.

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#4 Posted : Sunday, 28 February 2010 1:59:24 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Jim and HK1837 for the advise, will do a bit more searching through old posts.

Re keeping it original, thought about going down that path but its a non GTS compliance although original V8 HG80437 so want all the GTS bits on it and if they are going on it, then why not put a more modern driveline in? Any way of telling for sure if was originally a 253 or 308?

When I bought it, it was done as fake GTS 350 with guards, bonnet,tramp rods and tank but fitted with a 307 no transmission.

Cheers,
Steve
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#5 Posted : Sunday, 28 February 2010 3:02:46 AM(UTC)
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The VN/P harness is the one to use as there is no security to bypass. There are lots of HK to HG running around with these engines in them these days, a very good update. Floor mods can be a problem, we did a car recently that required floor mods and this became a problem for other things like console, pedals etc, so give some thought to Byrons suggestion.

As for finding original driveline combo, the standard things are worth looking at, saginaw hump on passenger side of trans tunnel and salisbury hump.

These are the possible combinations:

1) No humps: 253 with 3 speed or 253 trimatic or 308 trimatic
2) Saginaw hump no salisbury hump: 253 4 speed
3) Saginaw hump and salisbury hump: 308 4 speed
4) Salisbury hump only: 308 trimatic with optional high performance rear axle.

If number 1 then check bottom of steering column for reversing wires and nuetral safety wires. Also if factory floor shift then 253 3 speed would be out.

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#6 Posted : Sunday, 28 February 2010 3:14:03 AM(UTC)
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T400? any mods to the tunnel needed?

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Edited by user Sunday, 28 February 2010 3:15:57 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#7 Posted : Sunday, 28 February 2010 4:46:10 AM(UTC)
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Thanks Warren, looks like 253/ 3 speed, no factory hump and shifter hole not original. There is a salisbury hump but it looks like it has been added probably when the 10 bolt/Bathurst tank was fitted.

Probably not the most common combo in a Monaro if one was to keep it original, but think Id prefer a floorshift manual box behind an injected 5L.

Cheers,
Steve
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#8 Posted : Sunday, 28 February 2010 6:53:24 AM(UTC)
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T400? any mods to the tunnel needed?

Jim in Adelaide...Hindsight is bad vision!


got a big axe jimmy??? coz ya gunna need it

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#9 Posted : Sunday, 28 February 2010 9:15:57 AM(UTC)
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we wreck, I didnt know if they fitted in the tunnel or not,so
now I know they dont,no different to modifiying the tunnel for
some of the other suggestion,once you start.

Jim in Adelaide...Hindsight is bad vision!
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#10 Posted : Monday, 1 March 2010 7:56:23 AM(UTC)
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Hi HG80437

I have a 304 and Supra 5 speed in the G (or out of it at the moment!!)

I didnt do the conversion myself, but Ive been reverse engineering it with some help from the crew here.

Any help you need let me know and Ill do my best.

Cheers

Jeremy

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The G will roll again.... eventually
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, 2 March 2010 4:41:40 AM(UTC)
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Hi Steve, I had a supra 5 spd in my HG before I installed a muncie, by the looks of it, only needed a small mod to the floor. Shifter position was around the same spot.
The box was very pleasant and they can handle high HP. Had a mech speedo cable.
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