If you get a chance research the differences in the Camaro and Mustang sheels from the originals and see how different they are. Then you'll see it doesn't matter that any new Monaro sheel isn't true to original, so I imagine they'd make them as one size fits all. If they were all replica 1837 manual shells then you could do what you wanted with them. Since they'll probably be obviously different from the originals no-one will care if a hump or two is on them.
I doubt any of these will legally ever be able to be registered as a 1969-1971 Monaro, so any of them will probably be restricted to club rego or display cars. They won't have chassis numbers either.

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Originally posted by HK1837
I doubt any of these will legally ever be able to be registered as a 1969-1971 Monaro, so any of them will probably be restricted to club rego or display cars. They won't have chassis numbers either.

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Why would these not be allowed when other vehicles are?

I personally know a guy in NSW who purchased a 1942 Willys ww2 MB jeep that had been sitting in a farmers paddock for decades. The body and chassis were rusted beyond repair.

A complete Phillipine reproduction body and chassis was purchased to restore the vehicle. The chassis number on a MB jeep is stamped on a metal plate that is riveted to the front chassis rail (also available reproduction)and was long gone. The original engine, gearbox, front and rear diffs and other useable parts were fitted to the repro body and chassis and the vehicle in now fully registered in NSW as a 1942 Willys jeep.

A good friend here in Qld got a badly rusted out 1942 ww2 Willys MBT trailer and has restored it using a Phillipine made reproduction trailer tub and chassis and it to is now fully registered as a 1942 Willys trailer.

I also know of a 1928 Chevrolet sedan pulled from a paddock, at least 60% of the body was restored by hand fabricating new panels and a complete new chassis was hand fabricated using measurements from what was left of the original chassis. This car is on club rego in Qld but could be fully registered if the owner wanted.

Run a holden chassis..ie: the same as the parenti(corvette kit car)....done.They have to register it,as they have them.People that
own real monaros wont like this,niether should they,but thats life!

Jim in Adelaide...WTB CENTER LINE AUTO DRAGS 15X7 UPTO 8.5 WIDE.

No-one is going to build monaro shells,with the amount of money
it would take to tool up, without approval of register prior to
building.The shells themselves may have numbers on from production.
They could also use exsisting chassis as they are a 2010 car anyway.
many people may choose to go fuel injected/turbo..etc.I would think
they will answer all the rego questions prior to spending big$$$,s
I would.(especially after the american incident's)
On the brighter side if youv'e got a wreck you can now fit these
bodies as a spare part!...lol.

Jim in Adelaide...WTB CENTER LINE AUTO DRAGS 15X7 UPTO 8.5 WIDE.

I think there will be a clear distinction between a genuine Monaro and one built up using these bodies and panels. Manufacturing techniques have changed radically since the late 60's, so hopefully as others have previously said, "you can pick the lines".

Cutting a complete firewall out of a wreck and putting it into one these new shells won't make any difference, it would be a pointless exercise if it is obvious what the shell is, and anyway honest people won't need it because the shell will have to have it's own VIN as it's identifier.

I don't reckon tags will come into play either, you would have to have too many kangaroo's in the top paddock to think they would mean anything on a car like that.

So really body stamps and tags should be irrelevant because they won't be needed to register these cars and don't even apply to them.

no one will ever build a shell, so dont even get into discussion about it. it took brookvale in the USA 20 yrs to get a 1932 ford repro body happening and to get it right, and thats with a population of 280million and the 32 ford being the most restored/modified/hot rodded vehicle in history, so it made some kind of sense to do it. what have we got here that warrants it??
we have not many people, and not much demand, and when you do it, a pack of whinging whineing rednecks that will say its crap anyways. get realistic fella's, as much as i would love to see it happen, it never will

"Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.."

never happen.
talk bout the americans making a elenor copys, well that company is now broke, and it started from a guy that was a multi millionaire, and a polation with 280 million, reaching out now to nearly 300 i think.
once again, never happen

"Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.."

fair enough then, but we will never see a repro full body shell for any car in this country, regardless of it being HK, EH XW XY LC-J whatever. those figures you state make sense in theory, but not likely to be thae same in reality

"Reputations are made and broken as soon as you enter or leave my shed.."

I was at the Qld Monaro club the other night when one of the on sellers came to give a progress report on these shells plus other items that they have manufactured.

They are currently negotiating to have them identified as a spare part and therefore acceptable for registration. I am not sure of all the legalities, but they seem to think it is possible.

If it is, then it will allow a lot of people that want an HK Monaro to own one. If the person wants to make a custom Monaro then one of these shells would be ideal, as once it is modified the tags mean nothing anyway, they only tell you what the car was before you started modifying it.

If you cannot register one, then you could buy one and use its panels to repair yours, ie used its turret, quarters, sills and floors to replace yours, leaving your firewall and A pillars. You could unpick their's and then put on your car. This would be quite legal if you do them one at a time. You could also do this to an HT or HG.

If you are thinking of buying one and making a Monaro without a donor you will need to find all the door and quarter harware, chrome work and seats. The rest can be obtained from a sedan.

If limited to club rego in the states that have their rules derived from the hot rod rules, like Queensland dose, then heaps will do this. Many HK Monaro owners are quite happy with limited rego. When you start looking at how much you can use it, and if you join a club that has lots of outings, every Friday and Saturday night, Saturday and Sunday runs etc.

As for them being able to do it, they have manufactured bonnets, for which there are planty around, so why not the shells.

The interesting part is the fact that the chassis number is in the body shell, so if some one manufactured EH shells then there would be no problem. But if they manufactured EH subframes they could not be used, even though a genuine replacment EH subframe probably did not have a number stamped into it as it could alsobe used on an EJ. The same would apply to FE and FC. It is HD to HG that have the chahssis number not stamped into the body not the chassis. Silly isn't it.

The final word will be are they a Monaro?

Most people will accept them as being a Monaro, some of the purists may not, but if majority rules then I would say yes, as most people modify Monaros rather than restore to original. So the next step will be, can they join a monaro club and enter the nationals. They are alreaady listed as being elligable to enter the nationals so there is your answer to that.

If I had a dead shell here, I would be buying one and using either "repair mine" or register it on club rego option.

Warren

Still can't see why they would not be a kit car, the rules are already in place to allow it. Plenty of "Replicars" around, Cobra's, GT40's, '67 Mustang's & Camaro's etc etc etc. A new Monaro bodyshell when assembled should still be a kit car, able to be fully registered. It would have it's own VIN and comply with whatever ADR's apply to a 2010 body and 1968-71 mechanicals.

I would build one like Cloudy, and apart from the suspension (which I would be looking around for alternatives) and some trim etc mine would be a completely modern car.

Maybe the builders of these new shells need to make one that has a VZ or VE floorpan incorporated into it.

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