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#1 Posted : Monday, 2 August 2010 10:25:49 PM(UTC)
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gday every one
i am looking at a VH SLE with disc brake rear end 4 speed and a 308 :D.
the body is well beyond repair (been sitting out side under a tree for 15 years)
the car was parked there because the front brakes needed repair and they never got around to doing it.

im thinking of transferring the running gear into my VK
(disc brake rear end 4 speed and a 308 )
the VK is currently running a 202 and a 3 speed auto (starting to get a bit tired).
how hard well this conversion be?
is there anything to look out for when swapping the rear end over?
any thing that needs to modified to fit the motor gear box diff etc?
will i nee to use the engine mounts from the VH in my VK?

also well the VH dash swap over into the VK easy enough?

my VK is my daily driver and i only get two weeks to work on it so im getting every thing organised so i can get it done fairly easy with out to many hassles.





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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 4 August 2010 5:10:21 AM(UTC)
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I'm going to assume you want the V8 & everything into the VK, so all of this is based on what you'll do to the VK to make it work.

Transfer ALL the driveline - nothing from the 6 will suit the V8.

The K-frame is the same - you can leave it in place, as too the front brakes.

You can also keep the current steering rack (if it's power) and use the lines & pump from the VH. If the VK is not power steer, you'll need to sap in the whole VH system.

You will need to fit the VH's master cylinder & booster, to suit the rear discs.

The drivetrain will all physically bolt in - both shells have the same mounting holes for the gearbox x-member.

The front springs on a V8 are harder than a 6, but 6 cylinder springs work well with a V8 over them if you wanted the car a bit lower.

If the VK is EFI, then swap over the VH fuel tank.
If the VK is already carby, don't worry about swapping.

You will need the following other bits from the VH to go into your VK:
- Radiator, shroud & fan
- Power steering bracket & lines
- Alternator & bracket.

If your VK has aircon, keep it's current compressor & hoses, and fit a compressor bracket from a VK or VL V8 (it all bolts up) - the compressor in a VK is in the same location on VK 6 & V8.

You will also need to swap over the pedal box - see hainzy's thread on his VH SL/E T30 EFI 5L conversion for that info:
http://www.fastlane.com....topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=24306

The VH & VK speedo cables are the same for trimatic & aussie 4 speed - just make sure you use the speedo gear from the VH.

You'll need to use the VH V8 exhaust - fit it up before putting the diff back in, so you don't have to undo any of the joints. If the VH has a dual system, you'll need to make brackets to hold the RH side pipes. Factory style dual systems run down each side & pair up at the fuel tank - 6 cyl cars don't have the RH exhaust hangers as they only have a pipe down the LH side.

The VK wiring is very different to a VH, so you'll need to adapt the engine harness, but that's not hard. If your VK has a tacho, it will need to be recalibrated for the V8.

You will need to get the engine number changed over, and depending on your state of residence, the rego authorities may need to inspect the car to make sure you put all the pollution gear back onto it. The black VK 308 is the same prefix as the blue VH 308 (both are VTxxxxxx numbers) and run the same pollution gear, so this is no problem.

I've done a similar swap over a 2-day weekend, but didn't need to do any wiring mods (would only take a couple of hours). If you have 2 weeks, you'll s*** it in.

Cheers,

Mick
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 4 August 2010 5:16:34 AM(UTC)
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"also well the VH dash swap over into the VK easy enough?"

Easy?? No, not at all.

The VH is very, very different.

You would need to spend a week adapting all the wiring differences, or run the entire VH electrical system, but this also poses a problem with the ventilation systems being so different and not compatible with the opposite model's wiring.

Leave the VK dash in it, and leave all the VK wiring - the job is way too big for your time frame, and you'll need to do a lot more research before contemplating it.

Cheers,

Mick
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#4 Posted : Thursday, 5 August 2010 1:43:16 AM(UTC)
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Athough the VH and VK presumably adhere to the same ADR's regarding emissions it might be a wise idea to paint the V8 black before you put it into your VK so as not to attract undue attention.


Vandals and graffiti "artists" do everyone a favour and target parking meters and fixed speed cameras only.

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