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#1 Posted : Tuesday, 10 July 2012 7:59:08 AM(UTC)
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Gents,

I've recently purchased a Procomp 6AL ignition system with the matching Procomp coil. I thought they were awesome products as they are less than half the price of what Mallory or MSD charge for their components typically. Unfortunately, both failed within just 2 months. The coil blew first after about 1 month (that is driving every day to work about 15 km each way) and I replaced it with a standard coil. Then, after another month the ignition module burned through. I'm really surprised about this as I don't understand why such simple electronic components could just fail for no obvious reason. I've then bought the same system from Mallory (HyFire 6) and it's been running ever since.

Has anyone had similar experiences with their products or did I just have bad luck?

PS: I found this in an ebay-post a few months back:
355 stroker, Holden, Torana 308, 5Litre,drag,hotrod, LX
Procomp, Sydney speed (AKA) AT racing world

I have for sale some very low km's 355 stroker parts, less than 2000 ks. These parts have been replaced over several removal and tear downs of my motor.

Brought as a PROCOMP 355 stroker kit and head, manifold, cam kit from Sydney Speed supplies AKA at racing world.

First up is a wonderfull set of valve springs that went soft within 400 ks, next is a set of 7/16 screw in studs 1 is sheared off 2 are bent other than that they are in perfect condition.

I also have a set of big end and main bearings that I never used as the brand new crank needed grinding, It had a 1thou taper and was also barrelled from over polishing, This kit was ordered balanced for the cost of $250 extra and was so out of balance it shook the car severly at 2800 rpm, I thought the needles on my dash were going to shake off.

Up next is a set of pistons and rings, these items have about 1200 ks on them, the rings failed to seat and created a nice smoke haze behind me, they would suit a buyer looking for a unique look to there car SMOKE. 1 piston has a small crack, nothing to worry about as it is barely visible, the teflon coating (or as I call it paint) is worn off, this happened in 2 hours while running in the cam and tunning. These pistons have had 27 thou taken off them as they stuck out of a non decked block that far, they have also had the gudgeon holes honed to alinge them as the pin was very tight in these full floating pistons.

Next is a cam shaft, I was sold it as a solid but its either ground wrong or a hydraulic it is very noisy at the 22 thou clearence as on the cam card, A copy of a camtech cam with a camtech box and cam card. On talking to camtech they DONOT and will not have any thing to do with procomp. This badly made cam also damaged my valves where the collets seat so I also have these up for sale sizes are 2.02 inlet 1.6 exhaust.

OK this was the final straw that made me write this, I was putting the head back together after getting them back from the machine shop, seats cut and new valves, I put the valve stem seals on and realised I had to put the spring seat washers on before them. so i had to remove the seals. I PULLED UP ON THE SEAL TO REMOVE IT AND PULLED THE TOP CEAN OFF THE VALVE GUIDE NOT ONCE BUT TWICE. Im not quite sure whats going on there, either I have super human strenght or these items are super weak, Ill let you be the judge. So I am also selling these there seems to be at least 10 good ones.


I was wondering if anyone in this Forum has made similar experiences? Or is it just bad luck?

Edited by user Tuesday, 10 July 2012 8:30:30 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

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#2 Posted : Tuesday, 10 July 2012 4:26:42 PM(UTC)
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It's about 50:50 on the street commodores forum. Lots of people with lots of horror stories, while others seem to have nothing but praise.

The Holden stroker kits seem to cause the most dramas - some have had cranks that have been so far out of whack they've had to throw them out, others have had rod sets you simply can't balance, as the heavy ones are so much heavier than the light ones, that removing metal from them would be suicide. Points to dodgy mettalurgy, and we know what part of the world that happens in.....

The old adage comes to mind "You get what you pay for" with these guys.
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#3 Posted : Tuesday, 10 July 2012 6:58:52 PM(UTC)
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Deja vu.... Certainly seems like these guys are to be avoided....

http://www.fastlane.com....952&SearchTerms=procomp

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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 1:45:45 AM(UTC)
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my suggestion is if it contains electronics, moving parts or requires any level of precision in its construction, stay away.

anything that doesnt fit that criteria is fair game.
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 3:32:45 AM(UTC)
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I think that what ever is said here, you have to be careful. I believe that other forums have been threatened by these people for speaking out. But, by me saying this, I knew to steer clear of these people, even though I live quite close to them, by the information I could find about them. And as commodorenut said, you get what you pay for, so true.
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 4:44:57 AM(UTC)
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I think this was a well constructed post, not bagging out the company just informing us of his bad luck of putting an engine together. Its crazy to think some companys are still in buisiness. And to think you cant mention how crap someones parts are in fear of being sued is ridiculous. We cant even save a fellow enthusiast the angst of being completely ripped off without walking on egg shells. I too had an unfortunate experiance about 10 years ago when I gave an multiple spark ignition box from said company to my auto elec mate. He then asks what it was suppose to do cause the crap inside it practically and litteraly did nothing. so at least yours worked for a month that sounds like success to me.
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 5:18:24 AM(UTC)
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my flatmate has had basically everyone of those head issues since he fitted a set on his windsor, utter junk with no warranty
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 7:18:08 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by BIGCAV
my flatmate has had basically everyone of those head issues since he fitted a set on his windsor, utter junk with no warranty

no warranty is not true , every product brought in australia is entitled to a min 12 month statutory warranty ,NO IF NO BUTS NO EXCEPTIONS
if you buy an item they give 30days warranty they can not enforce it
i agree with you get what you pay for , BUT ALSO
you are also entitled to get what you brought ,

example , you buy a new washing machine , it doesnt matter if you paid $200 or $2000 dollars , you are entiltled to a receive the product you brought in good working condition free from defects both of them come with the standard statutory min 12months warranty , the one for 2 k being the high end of the range for a washing machine would be expected to last much longer than a cheaper one

read up guys , its easier than you think and much more rights than you think

if you can prove something you purchased has caused damamaged and additional costs to you , you are entitled to claim that

i think to many companies play hard ball with customers over htese facts to make them go away and not become an issue

example thru WA consumer protection , i claimed and won against a wood merchant cost of $4500 awarded to me because the guy who sold me jarrah decking said " mate its jarrah it will look good in 20yrs " after 2 it looked like s*** , the 4.5k is my cost to remove and replace the faulty product

have a good read up , the new consumer protection laws are a australia wide standard introduced this year , for this exact reason to protect everyday consumers against cheap faulty rubbish ,

you get what you pay for also applies to SUPPLIERS AND WHOLESALERS if they want to buy the cheap crap they need to wear the after facts also of it

http://www.lifehacker.co...onsumer-protection-laws/
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 7:30:54 AM(UTC)
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we tried to get a warrenty but every step of the way was its somehow our fault, they didnt want a bar of it, in the end after he almost threw the things threw there front window he just gave up and moved on

forgot to mention it also cracked a few roller rockers threw the pivot shafts, spat out the whelsh plugs after 1000km inside the head and filled the sump with coolant and wore out the guides within 5000km

they used the worn guides to say it wasnt setup properelly and caused all the issues but it was setup fine, new AFR heads have done 30,000km no dramas
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 7:50:37 AM(UTC)
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dont go thru them , go thru consumer protection ,
that is a typical retailer ploy to make it appear your fault and make it seem extra difficult , because they know if you dont give up it will cost them

it really is easy to do , download the the relevant to your state consumer protection claim form , post it or fax it off and sit back and wait
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 9:14:44 AM(UTC)
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quote:
Originally posted by KeithA
I think that what ever is said here, you have to be careful. I believe that other forums have been threatened by these people for speaking out. But, by me saying this, I knew to steer clear of these people, even though I live quite close to them, by the information I could find about them. And as commodorenut said, you get what you pay for, so true.


I'm trying to be as objective as possible. I wanted to get people's opinions, that's all. I don't think a lot of people read these posts anyway so after all no one will care, but I know now that I have to look elsewhere for parts.

Thanks guys!
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, 11 July 2012 6:50:07 PM(UTC)
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Honestly mate, I would not put procomp parts on a billy cart,if you wan't a good brand name for you ride just put away the extro dollars just stay clear of that crap.

Regards Tony.
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#13 Posted : Thursday, 12 July 2012 6:44:52 AM(UTC)
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Not only are their parts a hunk of crap but by all accounts on all the different forums they sound like a bunch of complete a***holes. Reason enough to stay away!
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, 15 July 2015 8:58:33 PM(UTC)
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I've personally dealt with sydney speed myself, by the size of their business one would easily conclude that they would definitely process hundreds of transactions on a monthly basis. Yet from time to time you get disgruntled customers that want to post their unfortunate experience with procomp. I have had nothing but excellent experience with procomp, their customer service is outstanding and from all the people I know at least have nothing but praise for them. Also anyone in business should identify with the words "problem customer", it don't matter what you do for them they are still pissed off.
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