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Can I get some help with the colour or finish of the Front Suspension Parts on a Pagewood a HK 1837 the likes of the main X member its self and all that attach to it. Upper and Lower control arms, DragLink, Tie Rods, Ball Joints, Steering Knuckle and Brake Calipers and even the shock absorbers. Be good to get an idea of the colours before removing existing coverings.
Thanks for any help here.
I wouldn't imagine they are all the same sort of finish so any help would be terrific.
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Hello Flem. The understanding I have is that the black they used at the GM-H plants was, although it would have been purchased mostly from suppliers like Dulux, often supplemented by a blend of waste paint leftovers from the paint shops. This was blended with a black tint to match master colour cards. Flattener added as needed. Two products which come to mind are "Warragul Black" and "GM-Chassis Black". Shocks were green or Black. Calipers were not painted. Some of the other parts may have been painted by the non GM manufacturers. The underbody was also painted black. I think the shade consistency varied from plant to plant and batch to batch. The Pundits may have more info or correct me if I am wrong. Cheers Nick. Edited by user Saturday, 7 January 2017 7:59:50 PM(UTC)
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I dont think the paint in those areas was plant specific anyway but mines a Dandenong build. For all the black parts try PPG Dulon subframe semi gloss black 599-12426 www.protec.com.au/images...actory_Pack_01-06-16.pdfI found its very close to the original finish of my parts, near perfect actually which surprised me. Good for most of the items you mentioned. Flatten it a little for the diff, rear springs, front crossmember and control arms, they were originally painted with a different type of paint but the shade was about the same as everything else. On my car I didn't really see any evidence of a random daily mix of blackish paint, the 'slops black' that everyone talks about. Every component seemed to be painted with exactly the same semigloss paint, from horns and bonnet springs to splash trays and exhaust heat shield. I doubt all these items were painted the same day. Photo of my original black bits with the glovebox lid as a comparison to show the 'black' isnt very black at all. 
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I think that we are getting a bit too 'precious' about paint finishes on certain items.
It really depends on the source of the parts themselves.
Items that GM-H made in-house, such as front suspension arms, gearbox crossmembers, diff housings etc. would all have been painted in something like a Dulux air dry enamel, but items sourced from external suppliers could've been painted in any paint finish they chose, as long as it filled GM-H's request for being 'Black'.
Brake boosters, radiators, tie rod ends, are examples where the paint finish didn't necessarily match GM-H's own in-house black.
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Dr Terry .. We reap what we sow, and the plethora of information garnered by forums like this one can over-complicate what might've been an enjoyable "restoration".
....Too much information can sour what was intended to be a nice job...blame it all on the "hard wired world" we all live in ...????
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Some of us enjoy discovering those small details and sharing them with others.
Not sure how that can sour or over complicate whatever youre doing with your car, details are optional.
Hopefully Flem found it useful, no one relied to his questions for almost a month so I wouldnt call that a plethora of information.
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Thanks for all those who replied and their ideas and views up on the question.
Yeh all this conversation helps
It was very helpfulI though even if it only helped confirmed my own views qne way or another.
I wouldn't have asked the question on this forum though if I didn't have some regard
for those regular contributors with their range of views and as noted by others, for some just the comments and discussion is exciting or enjoyable
enough on its own.
Yes just knowing those little details helps you move along in a restoration or project of some form or another.
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Hello Flem.
I agree with Terry and Rig Pig.
Terry has been around Holdens all of his life and has written a book or two about them.
Wayne (RigPig) has a lot of info on details of original cars before the were fiddled with and / or restored. That info is most important as it is the truth.
Detective? Well he has a point about too much info in the new internet universe. It is as much of a problem as it is a help.
There are people on use this Forum who have really good info . Probably one of the best for all things Holden.
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