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161 to 253 swap requirements. - What else do I need?
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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 13 October 2021 6:53:49 PM(UTC)
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Hi Guys,

I know I'm new here but I will try to contribute when I can but again I'm after some advise and guidance if possible.

For now I am fixing up my 161 / 3 on the tree to get my HT Kingy rolling but down the track I hope to fit the 253 which I have awaiting transplant.

So there does seem to be a lot of varying advice as far as exactly what I need for the transplant.

So far I have the motor with most bolt-ons, the HK-HG specific engine mount adapter plates, and the HK-HG specific sump.

Items that I believe I still need is a V8 3 speed (want to keep the 3 on the tree), V8 radiator, Diff with suitable gear ratio and yolk, disk brakes (to suit rego requirements)and smaller rear wheel cylinders.

Items I'm unsure about, tailshaft, the factory parts book indicate a slightly different length and I've heard that universal joints are bigger so if this is so I will also need the suitable gearbox end yolk.

So please advise me if I have missed anything and/or if some of the items are not required (such as diff gearing, tailshaft etc).

Again thanks in advance and any help will be much appreciated. Mark.
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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 13 October 2021 7:33:57 PM(UTC)
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You don’t need HT-HG engine mount adapters, you can use HQ-WB with HQ onwards engine mounts. You’ll need the 253 throttle linkage and V8 radiator as stated.

You need a V8 3spd from HG to HZ, HT are closer ratio and not really suited to a 253. Your box will be the same if its good, but needs a V8 HG-HZ 3spd input shaft plus the cover to suit the type of seal. You need a HT to mid HZ V8 manual (not 350) bellhousing and clutch fork plus the bracket that bolts to the bellhousing for the clutch mech off a HT-HG 253 3spd.

You will need a V8 banjo centre which only came in 2.78 or 3.08. You won’t find one, so grab an LH-LX 3.3 manual diff which were mainly 3.08 and get a yoke off a VB-VH 4.2 diff. Will need to be rebuilt. This will give you a coarse spline V8 banjo. You’ll have to change the speedo cable gear to suit the different ratio.

You’ll need HT-HG disc brakes, booster, master cylinder, rear shoes and the wheel cylinders to suit.

You will need a tailshaft from a HT 253 3spd or 253/308 auto.

Plus all appropriate fan, spacer, belt, radiator and heater hoses etc. HT-HG 263/308 has a unique alternator bracket too. Dipstick is different too from memory. Exhaust manifolds are the same as HQ-HJ. You can buy repro choke pipes in stainless.

Someone will make a repro choke blank for V8 to go in the dash.

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#3 Posted : Wednesday, 13 October 2021 8:24:31 PM(UTC)
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Wow thanks for the comprehensive reply, that is so very much appreciated as so many guys have told me how easy the swap was and that I'd hardly need anything for the swap but I knew that it wasn't going to be that easy.

Thanks again and I'll now be on the hunt for those bits.

Cheers, Mark.
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#4 Posted : Wednesday, 13 October 2021 8:56:07 PM(UTC)
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It is easy compared to converting to a SBC and column auto.
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