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#1 Posted : Wednesday, 1 February 2006 1:32:06 AM(UTC)
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Hi all. My enquiry is whether anyone can shed some light on a 351 Cleveland engine that I own which has an engine number that differs from the usual JG..etc, and also that the number is located on the top surface of the engine block. I know the history of the engine back to about 1979, when it had proper big port 4v heads and a toploader gearbox (which I still have).

The engine number is not stamped in the usual position on the side of the block above the fuel pump, but is on the top surface of the engine immediately forward (i.e. to the front of the car) from the distributor. And, it is stamped facing backwards (i.e. facing the cabin). The number is ZF7A2900030.

The casting numbers found elsewhere on the block are D2AE-CA, with 4C4 below it, and the numbers 1,3,5,7,9 on the clock face, with a dimple between 3 & 5 and 7 & 9. I have been advised that 4C4 is a 4th March 1974 Australian casting from an XB and the clock is the shift that it was cast in.

If anyone has any comment or opinion on the engine or has an interest in it please let me know. I can send a picture if you provide an e-mail address.

Regards, Adrian (Tel. 0438 593 038).

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#2 Posted : Wednesday, 1 February 2006 5:27:08 AM(UTC)
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HI ADRIAN, A D2AE-CA BLOCK IS A USA BLOCK MADE FROM 1970 TO 1974 . I WOULD SAY 4C4 MEANS 4 MARCH 1974 , AND WOULD OF LEFT THE FACTORY WITH 4V HEADS .SOME WERE FITTED WITH 4 BOLT MAINS-BEARING CAPS ...THATS ABOUT ALL I CAN TELL YOU . I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT T
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#3 Posted : Thursday, 2 February 2006 8:18:47 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Monza. I also got some info on another forum. One option is that it's a factory warranty motor. Cheers.
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#4 Posted : Thursday, 2 February 2006 10:39:20 PM(UTC)
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I found this Cleveland site. Only just stumbled on it last night doing a google search but there seems to be a fair bit of knowledge there. Might be of some help to you and the other fellow with clevo questions.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/119419
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#5 Posted : Thursday, 2 February 2006 11:51:36 PM(UTC)
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Thanks Paul. I've had a look and this is a very interesting site. - Adrian.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, 7 February 2006 9:47:32 AM(UTC)
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Adrian,
I was talking to a Ford Guru the other day and he mentioned that the 351 windsors are stamped where your engine numbers are. So if your engine is a clevo best bet is that it was a restamped bare block most likely from the US. That would explain
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, 8 February 2006 7:50:55 PM(UTC)
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Thanks again Paul. The stamping itself looks like a factory job. And since I last posted I've discovered that it doesn't have GF embossed in the casting at the back of the block. So, tending to think you're right Mate. Although, I've still got a suspicio
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#8 Posted : Wednesday, 8 February 2006 9:15:59 PM(UTC)
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Hey Jim, my Clevo came from the States and is also stamped in the wrong place, behind the motor, below the heads which is where they stamped their 302 windsors. The stamping also looks factory. The guy looking at my motor also told me that mine was an au
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#9 Posted : Monday, 6 March 2006 10:05:47 AM(UTC)
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The engine number is not stamped in the usual position on the side of the block above th
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#10 Posted : Wednesday, 10 May 2006 3:57:35 AM(UTC)
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Could have been restamped by RTA
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#11 Posted : Wednesday, 10 May 2006 5:07:46 AM(UTC)
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i had a D block wich started with HS it was a 71 and made in usa.there is a way to tell where there made,its on the back of the block and its cast into them.from memory the aussie blocks had a G for gellong and the usa motors had a C for cleveland.my moto
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forgot to say the engine number was on the front of the motor
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#13 Posted : Saturday, 13 May 2006 6:44:48 AM(UTC)
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Can anybody tell me what type of engine i have which i got out of a f100 , i can't tell a 302 from a 351 i would love to learn how, any info is appreciated these numbers are from above the fuel pump JG37NM
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#14 Posted : Saturday, 13 May 2006 8:50:26 AM(UTC)
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All I can tell you is that your motor is out of a march 1973 Fairlane. As for telling if it's a 351 or 302 you will have to either measure the stroke down the bore with a piece of wire or take the sump off and look at the crank as it will have it cast in
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#15 Posted : Sunday, 17 September 2006 11:17:56 PM(UTC)
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i know vic roads use to stamp them on the front where yours is i have a 72 ranchero gt ute and when they couldnt find the num stamped them where yours is thats why usa num are at back of block
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, 7 November 2006 7:57:04 AM(UTC)
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I`ve a friend who has a clevo in a toyota 4WD, it needed real power! can any one help with the engine no?
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, 30 December 2009 12:24:05 AM(UTC)
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I wonder what a detomaso eng number is.
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#19 Posted : Sunday, 3 January 2010 9:14:42 PM(UTC)
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Hi mate, not sure, but I sold mine (i.e. the one without the engine number) some time ago for $500. Cheers.
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