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Guest		#1 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 1:21:48 AM(UTC)
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Dr Terry		#2 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 1:35:32 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,116 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Hi john. A 202 & 3.3 are one in the same. You probably mean 'can you bolt 202 Red motor rods onto a 3.3 Blue motor crank ? Yes you can, the big end journal sizes are all the same, you can fit Red rods onto a Blue crank or (more commonly) vice versa.
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Dr Terry		#3 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 1:35:32 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,116 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Hi john. A 202 & 3.3 are one in the same. You probably mean can you bolt 202 Red motor rods onto a 3.3 Blue motor crank ? Yes you can, the big end journal sizes are all the same, you can fit Red rods onto a Blue crank or (more commonly) vice versa.
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Guest		#4 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 2:03:48 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		thanks dr terry its that i just picked up a 3.3 crank and i read they are a fully counter weighted and are a better crank than early red 202 cheers ps

HK1837		#5 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 2:44:11 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,902 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 559 time(s) in 534 post(s)		All red 202 cranks are the same. Its the blue/black that are counterweighted. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
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HK1837		#6 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 2:44:11 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,902 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 559 time(s) in 534 post(s)		All red 202 cranks are the same. It's the blue/black that are counterweighted. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
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Dr Terry		#7 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 3:07:39 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,116 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Hi Guys. I think you may have balance issues if you use the lighter Red rods on a Blue crank. Arent the counterweights calculated to balance out the combined weight of the piston & rod assembly. Dr Terry.
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Dr Terry		#8 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 3:07:39 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,116 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Hi Guys. I think you may have balance issues if you use the lighter Red rods on a Blue crank. Aren't the counterweights calculated to balance out the combined weight of the piston & rod assembly. Dr Terry.
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boom		#9 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 6:14:33 AM(UTC)
Rank: Member Reputation: Groups: Registered Joined: 20/02/2006(UTC) Posts: 990		Blue rods are incredibly strong as well. Yes i think the counterweights are designed to balance it all out. If it doesn’t burn fossil fuels, it’s not a sport.
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vintageholden		#10 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 7:49:20 PM(UTC)
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HK1837		#11 Posted : Saturday, 17 November 2007 9:05:27 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,902 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 559 time(s) in 534 post(s)		Starfire, blue, black - all the same. Virtually identical to XU-1 as well. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
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Guest		#12 Posted : Sunday, 18 November 2007 12:13:59 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		how do you i.d a starfire rod next to a std 186 rod?

Dr Terry		#13 Posted : Sunday, 18 November 2007 1:32:09 AM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 6,116 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 219 time(s) in 199 post(s)		Hi Mikey. If you have them sitting next to each other, the Starfire/Blue/Black rod is beefier (more metal in the important areas) & the bolts are thicker. Dr Terry.
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Guest		#14 Posted : Tuesday, 20 November 2007 2:18:55 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		thanks all the 3.3 crank i picked up is a blue motor crank so i will have t o go for the star fire rods to make it all work properly cheers ps i just thought a 202 red would run smoother with that combo

Guest		#15 Posted : Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:42:51 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		I thought red motors are neo seal, blue black are rope. If this is the case. The cranks arent a straight swap. Someone will need to confirm this though. Cheers.

Guest		#16 Posted : Thursday, 22 November 2007 8:42:51 AM(UTC)
Rank: Guest Groups: Guests Joined: 2/09/2015(UTC) Posts: 43,977 Was thanked: 5 time(s) in 5 post(s)		I thought red motors are neo seal, blue black are rope. If this is the case. The cranks aren't a straight swap. Someone will need to confirm this though. Cheers.

HK1837		#17 Posted : Thursday, 22 November 2007 3:52:45 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,902 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 559 time(s) in 534 post(s)		Not correct. Reds are neoprene up till some time in the early 70s. After that they are rope. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
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HK1837		#18 Posted : Thursday, 22 November 2007 3:52:45 PM(UTC)
Rank: Veteran Reputation: Groups: Moderator, Registered, Veteran Joined: 1/03/2005(UTC) Posts: 14,902 Thanks: 1 times Was thanked: 559 time(s) in 534 post(s)		Not correct. Reds are neoprene up till some time in the early 70's. After that they are rope. _______________________________________________________ If we all had the same (good) taste, who would buy all the Fords?
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