Did all Sandman’s have a black steering wheel?

Thanks.

Yeah I know, but want to know specifically about Sandman.

I think it was the WB ute and p van and 1 tonne that got the optioned up GTS dash, from the point of the trim change up grade for sure that I have seen were trim coloured.

All HQ and HJ got Sandman in the horn button I believe, HX was blank horn button without sandman and HZ was a round button that was not as flash but all were black button I believe.

Sports instrument facia maybe the correct term.

I only like the HT-G sports instrument facia and hate the HK one.

Love the HQ-J-X-Z and WB Sports instruments facia. they are best ever of all Holden's by far.

I hate the HJ ribbon speedo and the HK as well can't stand any ribbon speedo ever. EJ and EH I don't mind tho.

I could no care about if the speedo has 140KM/H on it to much, as it's the Gauges that I demand as a must have, a warning light do not impress me at all, I would not mind a light as well as a gauge and even a warning noise if temp or oil pressure drops or even volts, may be of benefit, much more than all the safety noises you have now in new cars that drive you up the wall.

Hell my car has 240 KM/H but speed limited to 210 KM/H so why have 240 on the bloody clock as I can't see the 2 KM/H increments to well they are so bloody small, with all the madness that the government make claiming every K over is a killer tripe. I had some woman try and run me down when I was walking down the street at nigh, I was mistaken for a dug dealer a hole up the road, went to the cops about it and they could not give a rats arse ! f ing c-nts ! but come the big authority with shit like milking people for 1 KM over get f ed. they aiding and abetting this drugged f ed c-nt up the road and everyone hates that c-nt up the road because he sells the crap out front of their home and especially that woman's home.

Yes, but it was the same instruments (barring ADR & odometer changes) as Sandman or any other U17 optioned HJ, and the same fascia as any U17 dash in earlier HJ. So when you pick one up at a swap meet you cannot say it is a GTS fascia, could be from a Sandman or LS or Belmont or most anything else.

Edited by user Saturday, 14 November 2020 7:13:55 AM(UTC)  | Reason: Not specified

For HK plus HQ to the start of 1974 the dash in GTS was unique as only GTS got the 140mph speedo. Not even SS got it. However once Sandman was released it also got the 140mph speedo. Not sure about HT-HG, can’t recall what a Belmont, Kingswood or Premier optioned with sports dash got for speedo.

Makes sense. The sports dash was around for a long time in HK prior to GTS release, and there would have been a lot of HK Belmont, Kingswood and Premier with them, so I guess they’d just have kept making the 120mph sports dash. I even saw a HK van once with 186S and U21 dash. Also makes sense they’d just make the one sports cluster for HT.

AFAIK the "sports steering wheel" was not an option in any Holden of that era.

I've seen plenty dealer fitted but that is not a factory option.

Dr Terry

HQ and HJ Sandman had "GTS sports steering wheel",(ref:HQ & HJ Sandman sales brochure), (2)HQ sandman never had a 140 mph speedo, they had a 220kph speedo, (3)HQ Sandman had "Full GTS sports instrumentation"(ref:HQ Holden Sandman sales brochure),(4)HQ Sandman had "GTS sports wheels" (ref:HQ Holden Sandman sales brochure),so if it walks like a duck and looks like a duck, it's a duck, and it's politically correct to call them "GTS" wheels and "GTS" steering wheel, that is even if they are on a HZ Kindswood SL.